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Old April 5th, 2011, 08:25 PM   #1
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Quotas........numbers.......... at the risk of unsafe abortion practices. And people think the clinics are safe.....how little they know.

All they are interested in is numbers and the cash brought in by abortion.
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Quotas........numbers.......... at the risk of unsafe abortion practices. And people think the clinics are safe.....how little they know.

All they are interested in is numbers and the cash brought in by abortion.
Abortion in the first 12 weeks of gestation is as safe as any other procedure out there. Don't let the anti-choice whackaloons on "The Hill" website tell you otherwise. What IS unsafe are the many different methods of self-induced abortion that would occur if abortion were made illegal.













Were you aware that women aren't brood mares? We can't be forced to gestate.
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You are so pro-death to the unborn..that it warps your thinking and judgement. The facts are the facts no matter who reports them.



PP is being exposed.....
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Abortion in the first 12 weeks of gestation is as safe as any other procedure out there. Don't let the anti-choice whackaloons on "The Hill" website tell you otherwise. What IS unsafe are the many different methods of self-induced abortion that would occur if abortion were made illegal.













Were you aware that women aren't brood mares? We can't be forced to gestate.




Honey there is something called....keeping your legs together, taking responsiblity for your own actions. But sad death is your only solution. And honey the coathanger is just hype thrown into the ring by those who love abortion. Even PP said this was false reporting.
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You are so pro-death to the unborn..
Incorrect. I'm against FORCING women to gestate and give birth against their will. Women aren't ambulatory incubators; we are human beings with legal rights of choice.



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And honey the coathanger is just hype thrown into the ring by those who love abortion. Even PP said this was false reporting.
Do you understand the concept of symbolism? Also, no one "loves" abortion. Your own hyperbole destroys your argument.
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"While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."



Roger Streitmatter has claimed that Sanger's opposition to abortion stemmed primarily from a concern for the dangers to the mother rather than moral issues.Nonetheless, in her 1938 autobiography, Sanger notes that her 1916 opposition to abortion was based on the taking of life: "To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong wayŚno matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer wayŚit took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Sanger









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"While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization."



Roger Streitmatter has claimed that Sanger's opposition to abortion stemmed primarily from a concern for the dangers to the mother rather than moral issues.Nonetheless, in her 1938 autobiography, Sanger notes that her 1916 opposition to abortion was based on the taking of life: "To each group we explained what contraception was; that abortion was the wrong wayŚno matter how early it was performed it was taking life; that contraception was the better way, the safer wayŚit took a little time, a little trouble, but was well worth while in the long run, because life had not yet begun." http://en.wikipedia....Margaret_Sanger











Your point?



Today's Planned Parenthood and Sanger's beliefs are not comparable. So what if she was controversial and had some fringe beliefs that were not fringe at the time? That changes nothing about a woman having the fundamental right to decide if she carries a pregnancy to term or not. When to become a mother is her choice alone. Children are not punishment or a way to keep women in "their place".

Each time, azchurchmouse, that you attempt to nicely argue against a woman's right to choose, I see a bit more of a side that you don't show here very often, and it has to do with a chip on your shoulder over women and women's rights. Or let me say, what you perceive that to be. Because we don't quite see things the same way on that subject. I guess it's baggage or religious belief, but it certainly has no place in taking up against women's Constitutional protections and guarantees. I don't think that cancer secreenings and birth control and general gynecological care for poor women is a radical political activity.
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Today's Planned Parenthood and Sanger's beliefs are not comparable. So what if she was controversial and had some fringe beliefs that were not fringe at the time? That changes nothing about a woman having the fundamental right to decide if she carries a pregnancy to term or not. When to become a mother is her choice alone. Children are not punishment or a way to keep women in "their place".

Each time, azchurchmouse, that you attempt to nicely argue against a woman's right to choose, I see a bit more of a side that you don't show here very often, and it has to do with a chip on your shoulder over women and women's rights. Or let me say, what you perceive that to be. Because we don't quite see things the same way on that subject. I guess it's baggage or religious belief, but it certainly has no place in taking up against women's Constitutional protections and guarantees. I don't think that cancer secreenings and birth control and general gynecological care for poor women is a radical political activity.


Come out swinging, WT.



I expressed surprise, no more, no less.



On topic, do you believe that Abby Johnson's allegations are false?



Do you believe these commercials aren't the product of PP?



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLxEYYYPBk&feature=related[/media]





[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4LugpwIbYU&NR=1[/media]





You set up a false equivalency, WT: If a person opposes abortion as a means of birth control, then they are on the side of keeping a woman in "their place," by "punishing" her with a child.



It upsets the hell out of me that my taxes are used by D and R politicians to fight their interventionistic wars of choice. I oppose these wars in every way I can. I've been called un-American, unpatriotic, told I was "siding with America's enemies," that I "don't side with Israel," and more. Still, I will oppose an interventionistic foreign policy.



It upsets the hell out of some people that their taxes are used to fund abortions. One of the charges leveled by people comfortable with abortion is yours above, that opposition to abortion translates to being anti-women's rights.



It's a false equivalency.
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It upsets the hell out of some people that their taxes are used to fund abortions.


You do know that the Hyde Amendment specifically prohibits federal funds -- i.e., taxpayer money -- from being used to pay for abortions, except in cases of incest, rape, or danger to the life of the pregnant woman?
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