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Old September 6th, 2017, 07:21 PM   #51
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actually the latin is spelled 'foetus', but thats not the point.

my point is he isnt debating the ethics, or morality, not whether it is right or wrong, or why. he is just discussing the word itself, the terminology. its equivalent to a grammar nazi claiming the apostrophe is in the wrong place so your argument is invalid.
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Old September 6th, 2017, 07:36 PM   #52
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actually the latin is spelled 'foetus', but thats not the point.
"from Latin fetus (often, incorrectly, foetus)"
"The spelling foetus is sometimes attempted as a learned Latinism, but it is not historic."
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"But then there's foetus (or fœtus). This is a British spelling of the Latin word fetus. That is to say, the œ might look like it comes from a classical language, but it just doesn't. Sometime in the 16th century, someone (mistakenly, one might say) started spelling it with an œ, and it stuck."
https://separatedbyacommonlanguage.b...nd-bit-on.html

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actually the latin is spelled 'foetus', but thats not the point.

my point is he isnt debating the ethics, or morality, not whether it is right or wrong, or why. he is just discussing the word itself, the terminology. its equivalent to a grammar nazi claiming the apostrophe is in the wrong place so your argument is invalid.
My point is the attempt to dehumanize the unborn through semantics is a fail.
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Old February 26th, 2018, 01:16 PM   #55
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Abortion is murder unless it is to save the mother's life.
That doesn't make any sense AT ALL. You're saying a crime may be a crime or not a crime depending on the condition of the person who commits it. So maybe if I'm well off financially and I rob a bank it's a crime, but if I'm destitute it isn't?

In the first place no legal abortion is murder. Can you at least figure that one out?
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Abortion is murder unless it is to save the mother's life.
Bullshit.

Get a grip.
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My point is the attempt to dehumanize the unborn through semantics is a fail.
No, your point is an attempt to give “person status” to something that isn’t a person.
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My point is the attempt to dehumanize the unborn through semantics is a fail.
Nah, that's not it. Murder is (in the US judicial system) a word with meaning.

The law on abortion in the US is Roe v. Wade - issued by the Supreme Court back in the 1970s. Roe wasn't interested in whether or not the fetus was human or not; that was never @ issue.

The issue was whether or not the fetus was a person, as defined by law. Roe set up fetal viability as the test of personhood - if the fetus is born & continues living, then it is recognized as a person. Otherwise, it is not a person.

Therefore, a legal abortion carried out before the fetus is viable (or to preserve the life of the pregnant woman) is not murder. That's spelled out in Roe. To change that, the Supreme Court would have to revisit Roe.
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