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Old March 17th, 2017, 09:26 AM   #21
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in my city, at the hospital i used to work at, prior to abortion being legalised, there was a nice arrangement. every friday an ex midwife, who had the expertise and the equipment, would run a private unofficial abortion clinic. girls would make appointments, always on a friday, visit her house which was next door to the hospital, have an abortion done professionally and safely, albeit illegally. then they could walk next door and into the emergency department, and say they had just experienced a spontaneous miscarriage, and they would be admitted for post "miscarriage" management (which is the same as post abortion management). this would be only 1-2 days, and the girls were back at work by monday. everybody knew what was going on, and nobody said or did a thing, because everybody thought it was excellent.
A killing operation.....a nice arrangement? LOL You are sick in the head.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 09:27 AM   #22
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Everyone knows that. But they counsel women who don't know enough about it as to why and where.
LMAO...Counsel?

They want and they NEED ABORTIONS TO KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN.

If you are a woman who needs a mammogram...and you don't know where to go...then you are an idiot.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 09:29 AM   #23
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I am 100% pro abortion yet I still believe that it should be a state decision. It is not the business of the federal government.

Both sides of the argument (removing religion) are logical and I believe that it comes down to ones own personal morals.
Then for the record you pro-choice position includes all abortions...late term ones as well...even if the unborn is healthy?
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LMAO...Counsel?

They want and they NEED ABORTIONS TO KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN.

If you are a woman who needs a mammogram...and you don't know where to go...then you are an idiot.
Do you ever read anything that isn't a fundie menace publication?

Now tell us how successful abstinence only is so effective. I'm sure those publications go on and on about it. And please emphasise the contribution of their spokesperson, Briston Palin.
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Then for the record you pro-choice position includes all abortions...late term ones as well...even if the unborn is healthy?
If the birth would cause grave danger to the mother, yes.
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If the birth would cause grave danger to the mother, yes.
So you are pro-choice but want to impose your morality on women who might not share yours. You are doing what you tell pro-lifers they can't do.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 09:16 PM   #27
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Do you ever read anything that isn't a fundie menace publication?

Now tell us how successful abstinence only is so effective. I'm sure those publications go on and on about it. And please emphasise the contribution of their spokesperson, Briston Palin.
And what do you read....Huffington? Listen to CNN?

Look every reporter every news organization has a bias.
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Then for the record you pro-choice position includes all abortions...late term ones as well...even if the unborn is healthy?
Yes.

IMO there is no reason to force someone to have a child that does not want it nor should that child be subjected to living a life where it is unwanted, uncared for and resented. It is best to allow those people to rid themselves of the pregnancy in the safest way at the earliest possible time for all parties involved. This choice should be between the humans directly involved and the medical Profesinal of their choice and has absolutely nothing to do w/ the state.


When it comes to the dreaded "late term abortion" that everybody s howling about I feel that very few people would make that choice and if the state were removed from the equation even fewer doctors would choose to preform them. As it stands w/ state involvement if a dr. Performs one late term even if there were special circumstances involved the next person can demand one purely out of selfish reasons. When the Dr. Refuses they can cry unfair treatment to the state and force the Dr. To preform the procedure against their will.

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So you are pro-choice but want to impose your morality on women who might not share yours. You are doing what you tell pro-lifers they can't do.
How is RNG TELLING anyone what to do?
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So you are pro-choice but want to impose your morality on women who might not share yours. You are doing what you tell pro-lifers they can't do.
I'm not imposing anything on anyone. That is all you.

Unless you are living in some dictatorship that is but I assume you are in the US. This hypothetical woman in Canada would have the choice of aborting her near-term fetus or not. That is assuming that a doctor agrees that not aborting at that stage would be a significant risk to the mother. And I agree with that position. What am I forcing on anyone? It is her choice.

It is definitely not yours like you want it to be.
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