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Old March 7th, 2012, 01:33 PM   #1
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So this seems to have gone viral, I've known about the LRA's actions in Africa for a long time, long before this video came out and even longer before all these kids started spamming the interent about it. I'll post it here though if anyone is interested:



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc[/youtube]
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The LRA is the terrorist group Rush Limbaugh supports.

http://thelede.blogs...esistance-army/
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Now, up until today, most Americans have never heard of the combat Lordís Resistance Army. And here we are at war with them. Have you ever heard of Lordís Resistance Army, Dawn? How about you, Brian? Snerdley, have you? You never heard of Lordís Resistance Army? Well, proves my contention, most Americans have never heard of it, and here we are at war with them. Lordís Resistance Army are Christians. It means God.


Christians? Right. Because murdering people in order to kidnap their children, pillaging whole villages, raping women and girls, and sending children into battle wearing armor consisting of a dab of "holy oil" is what Christians do. [/sarcasm]
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The LRA is the terrorist group Rush Limbaugh supports.

http://thelede.blogs...esistance-army/
I'd take anything the New York Times says with a grain of salt.
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So this seems to have gone viral, I've known about the LRA's actions in Africa for a long time, long before this video came out and even longer before all these kids started spamming the interent about it. I'll post it here though if anyone is interested:



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MnpzG5Sqc[/youtube]


Thank YOU Yongwang. Watching the video was worth a half-hour of my life. I will go to the site, will sign up.



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Old March 7th, 2012, 06:38 PM   #6
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The LRA is the terrorist group Rush Limbaugh supports.

http://thelede.blogs...esistance-army/
I'd take anything the New York Times says with a grain of salt.


Are you claiming that Limbaugh didn't say what he said? There are many other citations for that.



It's not exactly the first time Limbaugh spoke without having a clue. And just an FYI - Limbaugh isn't the only right wing nut to have supported the LRA simply because it's a Christian group.
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[quote name='skrekk' timestamp='1331159796' post='388413']

The LRA is the terrorist group Rush Limbaugh supports.

http://thelede.blogs...esistance-army/
I'd take anything the New York Times says with a grain of salt.


Are you claiming that Limbaugh didn't say what he said? There are many other citations for that.



It's not exactly the first time Limbaugh spoke without having a clue. And just an FYI - Limbaugh isn't the only right wing nut to have supported the LRA simply because it's a Christian group.

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I'm not saying he did or didn't say anything. I don't really care, I'll continue to listen to him. He's a commentator/pundit, he can say whatever he wants. People mistake political pundits for journalists, there is (or should be) a difference.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 07:12 PM   #8
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[quote name='Yongwang' timestamp='1331161017' post='388415']

[quote name='skrekk' timestamp='1331159796' post='388413']

The LRA is the terrorist group Rush Limbaugh supports.

http://thelede.blogs...esistance-army/
I'd take anything the New York Times says with a grain of salt.


Are you claiming that Limbaugh didn't say what he said? There are many other citations for that.



It's not exactly the first time Limbaugh spoke without having a clue. And just an FYI - Limbaugh isn't the only right wing nut to have supported the LRA simply because it's a Christian group.

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I'm not saying he did or didn't say anything. I don't really care, I'll continue to listen to him. He's a commentator/pundit, he can say whatever he wants. People mistake political pundits for journalists, there is (or should be) a difference.

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Right........it's not important what the guy with a huge reactionary audience says, and it's certainly not important whether what he says is accurate or true. And it's not at all important if he often spreads misinformation.



Equally, it's not important if Rush reflexively supports a known terrorist group merely because they're Christian, even though he knows nothing at all about the group and apparently had never heard of the LRA before he made his comments in support of the group.
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Something to consider about this supposed "charity":



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The "charity" behind the viral video (11+ million views in two days) is called Invisible Children. It seems like a great idea to buy stuff and donate to them after watching the video, but stop and think about what you're doing for a second.



Take a look at this article from The Daily What:The organization behind Kony 2012 ó Invisible Children Inc. ó is an extremely shady nonprofit that has been called Ēmisleading,Ē ďnaive,Ē and ďdangerousĒ by a Yale political science professor, and has been accused by Foreign Affairs of ďmanipulat[ing] facts for strategic purposes.Ē They have also been criticized by the Better Business Bureau for refusing to provide information necessary to determine if IC meets the Bureauís standards.



Additionally, IC has a low two-star rating in accountability from Charity Navigator because they wonít let their financials be independently audited. Thatís not a good thing. In fact, itís a very bad thing, and should make you immediately pause and reflect on where the money youíre sending them is going.



A closer look at their expenditure report for June 2010-June 2011 is cause for more concern.







Out of $8,894,632 they spent, only $2,810,681 of that went to directly helping people. The rest went to Invisible Children making films, traveling around, paying employees, and whatever else they do that they don't want other people to know about.



Think before you get sucked into the latest viral phenomenon. It's important to help the people of Uganda, but it's even more important not to empower those who are seemingly duping the easily duped.
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American intervention in Central Africa to stop the LRA is a good step towards expanding upon our involvement the region. With Communist China's recent activities in the region and strengthening diplomatic and trade relations between many African nations and the communists, it's good to see that America hasn't abandoned the region entirely. America's providing assistance to the national governments fighting the Lord's Resistance Army should be just the first step towards America taking much larger role in the region, building closer relations with African nations, and putting ourselves in a better position to combat China over economic and strategic interests in the region.
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Now, up until today, most Americans have never heard of the combat Lordís Resistance Army. And here we are at war with them. Have you ever heard of Lordís Resistance Army, Dawn? How about you, Brian? Snerdley, have you? You never heard of Lordís Resistance Army? Well, proves my contention, most Americans have never heard of it, and here we are at war with them. Lordís Resistance Army are Christians. It means God.


Christians? Right. Because murdering people in order to kidnap their children, pillaging whole villages, raping women and girls, and sending children into battle wearing armor consisting of a dab of "holy oil" is what Christians do. [/sarcasm]


Well, it's a born again thingy....you have to be "born again" to give up the love and compassion which is Christianity.
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American intervention in Central Africa to stop the LRA is a good step towards expanding upon our involvement the region. With Communist China's recent activities in the region and strengthening diplomatic and trade relations between many African nations and the communists, it's good to see that America hasn't abandoned the region entirely. America's providing assistance to the national governments fighting the Lord's Resistance Army should be just the first step towards America taking much larger role in the region, building closer relations with African nations, and putting ourselves in a better position to combat China over economic and strategic interests in the region.


Very well said, but we are so late to this...China has been helping Central and South America and the African nations we have neglected for the 30 year reign of republican nwo, that I doubt we will make much of an impact here, really.
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Hmmm.......Christian, 2 kids, wants 9 more, masturbates in public:



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SAN DIEGO Ė A co-founder of Invisible Children, the group behind the ďKony 2012Ē video on alleged atrocities by an African warlord, was detained after witnesses reported a man masturbating and acting strangely, NBCSanDiego.com reported.



The TV station cited police Lt. Andra Brown as saying that Jason Russell, 33, was detained by police Thursday in the Pacific Beach neighborhood.



Reached later by msnbc.com, Brown would not confirm the man's identity, noting the man was not arrested.



Brown said police responded to reports in the Pacific Beach area of a man in in his underwear, running in the street and screaming. Some people reported they had seen the man masturbating, Brown told msnbc.com.



The man was detained by officers and then taken to a local medical facility for evaluation and treatment, Brown told msnbc.com.



Russell is one of the founders responsible for the "KONY 2012" video that went viral last week. He is described on the organization's website as a co-founder and "our grand storyteller and dreamer." Russell is also described as a Christian and father to two children who wants to have nine more children with his wife he calls his "best friend for over 23 years."



In a statement Friday, Ben Keesey, CEO of Invisible Children, said:



"Jason Russell was unfortunately hospitalized yesterday suffering from exhaustion, dehydration, and malnutrition. He is now receiving medical care and is focused on getting better. The past two weeks have taken a severe emotional toll on all of us, Jason especially, and that toll manifested itself in an unfortunate incident yesterday. Jason's passion and his work have done so much to help so many, and we are devastated to see him dealing with this personal health issue. We will always love and support Jason, and we ask that you give his entire family privacy during this difficult time."



The video of alleged child atrocities by Ugandan warlord Joseph Kony has been viewed more than 100 million times on the Internet. The 30-minute YouTube film aims to wake up the world to atrocities committed by Kony's Lord's Resistance Army, including kidnapping children and forcing them to fight.



Invisible Children tapped 12 influential policy makers and 20 celebrities with popular Twitter accounts, including Oprah Winfrey and Angelina Jolie, to spread the video.



The phenomenal success of the video, including the savvy media campaign with tweets about Kony, has been hailed for inspiring young people to activism, but has suffered some criticism including that it oversimplified a long-standing human rights crisis.



Russell, who narrates the video with a personal story that juxtaposes shots of his young son in San Diego with the hopelessness of Ugandan children, told Reuters last week the video was only meant as a kick-starter to a complicated issue.



"It definitely oversimplifies the issue. This video is not the answer, it's just the gateway into the conversation. And we made it quick and oversimplified on purpose," he said. "We are proud that it is simple. We like that. And we want you to keep investigating, we want you to read the history."
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And now it seems that "Invisible Children" might be linked to Martin Ssempa, of Kill the Gays fame:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conten...-martin-ssempa
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Awareness is a good thing....but this is no surprise. I did not know specifically about this one man, but these stories are as old as the world now. Horrible things happen. I remember when I first went to India in 1990 and I saw the mutilated children begging on the street, and a friend I know who lives there told me that these kids are sold to bad people who mutilate them so the can get more money when they beg.



That is when I had my awakening to the horrors of the world, not that I was naive, but I guess I never thought it was that bad.
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And now it seems that "Invisible Children" might be linked to Martin Ssempa, of Kill the Gays fame:

http://www.rightwing...r-martin-ssempa


Thank you skrekk. Between you and gary, homosexual angles are ubiquitously inserted into nearly every topic at DTT. Your understanding of jurisprudence no doubt is revealed by this:



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The best case scenario is that Ssempa and Invisible Children happened to cross paths at a single college and unwittingly reinforced one anothersí efforts. A much more disturbing scenario would be if Invisible Children actually works, or has worked, directly with Ssempa.


About 150 or so years ago, you'd have made a fine lynch mob organizer. Going back farther, I can see you encouraging people to burn bad people at the stake.



No evidence that Ssempa and Invisible Chidren are working together was presented. But, that didn't stop the author or you from a left-hand indictment of Invisible Children based solely on innuendo.
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Rush is just a commentator. He has a script which he reads.



Kony's gotta be stopped. Period. No discussion needed there.



And to whoever said about "Being born again"....there is no such thing. Sorry to say it but Christianity died long long long ago. Right after Christ was crucified. If you don't wanna believe me...well, look towards the Parish and the Pope. You'll see what I mean.
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And to whoever said about "Being born again"....there is no such thing. Sorry to say it but Christianity died long long long ago. Right after Christ was crucified. If you don't wanna believe me...well, look towards the Parish and the Pope. You'll see what I mean.
I'm a Christian, so Christianity cannot have died a long time ago.
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I'm not. And what I've seen of Christians, all of them are contradictions. I've got no reason to believe that Christianity survived. I'm not going to try to dissuade you cause we all believe what we want. But all I've seen of Christians are well.... Them not being Christians among other things.
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I'm not. And what I've seen of Christians, all of them are contradictions. I've got no reason to believe that Christianity survived. I'm not going to try to dissuade you cause we all believe what we want. But all I've seen of Christians are well.... Them not being Christians among other things.
Everybody is a contradiction to a certain extant. None of us fully live up to any ideal to which we would like to live up to. A Christian can try their hardest to live like Christ, but none of us can ever fully match up. Just because us humans cannot ever fully live up to Christ's perfection (until He returns, that is), that does not mean that Christianity is dead.
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