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Old May 14th, 2014, 06:24 AM   #11
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one doesnt need to fake anything to find atrocities in the name of islam.
very very true...
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Old May 14th, 2014, 06:26 AM   #12
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one doesnt need to fake anything to find atrocities in the name of islam.
it ain't like global warming.
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well, they found Bin Laden - and that was just one man
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Old May 14th, 2014, 09:23 AM   #14
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But one does shake his head. An excerpt from Why Nigeria has not defeated Boko Haram, link below:
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Mr Pindiga says the military has not dealt with big problems it faces.

Because of the military's human rights record people do not trust them, plus they lack modern equipment, training and motivation.

A UK military officer who has worked closely with the Nigerians says they are stuck in a Catch-22 situation.

"The trouble with the Nigerian government is that they want a big red button, which you can press and it will fix everything," says James Hall, a retired colonel and former UK military attache to Nigeria.

"I was asked by a senior commander if we could sell them the machine that can tell if a car driving down the road contains a terrorist," he added.

"I tried to tell them that such a machine doesn't exist, but then they just thought we were hiding it from them."

The UK is very wary in giving training assistance, and sales of better equipment are also problematic, he says.

"We have reduced dramatically the types of training and equipment we're willing to provide."

Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International have both criticised the Nigerian military for their tactics.
BBC News - Why Nigeria has not defeated Boko Haram
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Old May 14th, 2014, 10:14 AM   #15
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Obama and Cameron think they'll be able to find 300 girls in Nigeria - and that's if they're in Nigeria? They could be anywhere; and they might be in 300 different places in Nigeria if they've been sold.
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We have specialists & gear that can find & fix the Boko leadership. The guy strikes me as knowing as much about guerrilla tactics as the late Iraqi Saddam Hussein knew about modern military tactics - next to nothing. Yah, the Boko are great @ rounding up unarmed civilians in the dead of night, kidnapping teenage girls, terrorizing civilians & ambushing police.

TMK, Boko hasn't faced off against real military. & with chopper & gunship support, I think US forces would make quick work of Boko. If the girls are held nearby, we could probably be in & out, kill most of the cadre, & get away with most of the girls. That's assuming that the majority of Boko militia are amateurs & not willing to die for their cause. If they are die-hards, it could turn into a massacre. That's the down side.

However, the Nigerian government by itself seems disinclined to do anything @ all. Even if we wind up in a bloodbath, it may be worthwhile to impress upon Boko that we don't approve of kidnapping children.
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Good point Hoosier.
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There more I think about it, the more I wonder about the political nous of Obama and Cameron in that they seem think it'll be a walk in the park.
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i been callin for years about islamists oppression around the world, and their ongoing genocide of christians. these girls in nigeria are just one small piece.
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why did it take WEEKS for this to become news? my theory is the media didnt know how to report it. there is no way you can report on this without making it clear boko haram are muslim and that they justify their atrocities with islam. how do you report the religion of peace doing this?

i have very little hope for those poor children. i have some, but given the speed of the response, the intensity of the search, it just seems nobody really cares. getting the children back is going to involve a gunfight to the death with boko haram, and nobody has the will to do that.
If Nigeria was sitting on 10% of the world's oil supply there's be boots on the ground already !!!
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If Nigeria was sitting on 10% of the world's oil supply there's be boots on the ground already !!!
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According to Index Mundi - see Oil - production - Country Comparison

Nigeria was the #10 producer of the World's oil, as of January 1, 2012, per the CIA World Factbook.

Nigeria is a very strange place - lots of oil income, apparently mostly squandered. We can help the Nigerian gov. become more effective militarily and in COIN operations - I don't think we should take on the role of mercs for them. The oil money there is apparently causing a lot of economic & political dislocations & distortions.

We can work on resolving those, but it needs the political will of some of the major players in Nigeria. We can't go it alone, from outside of the country, with no political base in country.
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