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Old December 25th, 2013, 02:19 PM   #221
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Bush cut the deficit. The cuts were temporary. The rest is anemic growth.

Show me one thing Teas authored that is causal. Just one.
No bush did not cut the deficit Bush was President.. nor did he create a defict

Nor did Obama create a deficit, or cut a deficit

Only congress can cut the deficit.. create a deficit.




US Constitution

Article 1 section 8 clause 2..

Deficit is debt, ONLY CONGRESS can borrow on the credit of the united states.

Follow history of Deficits (Debt Creation)

Current national debt ~17.2 trillion dollars.

Borrowed when Democrats controlled BOTH houses of Congress

14.7 Trillion dollars

Borrowed when GOP controlled both houses of Congress

0.9 trillion dollars


the Rest was borrowed when the Congress was Divided, GOP controls one house democrast controlling the other.

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Old December 25th, 2013, 02:40 PM   #222
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No bush did not cut the deficit Bush was President.. nor did he create a defict

Nor did Obama create a deficit, or cut a deficit

Only congress can cut the deficit.. create a deficit.




US Constitution

Article 1 section 8 clause 2..

Deficit is debt, ONLY CONGRESS can borrow on the credit of the united states.

Follow history of Deficits (Debt Creation)

Current national debt ~17.2 trillion dollars.

Borrowed when Democrats controlled BOTH houses of Congress

14.7 Trillion dollars

Borrowed when GOP controlled both houses of Congress

0.9 trillion dollars


the Rest was borrowed when the Congress was Divided, GOP controls one house democrast controlling the other.
You missed the point. Neither Obama nor Congress has done anything to cut the deficit. Spending increases slowed. (one year went down / Obama - Pelosi budget 1 of 2) Bush (come Obama) tax cuts had a sunset provision. Growth plodded slowly upward.

That's what's reducing the deficit, while growing debt.

Fact.

But don't let that spoil your keen economic analysis of ...

Bad stuff = Obama fuckup

Good stuff = Tea party

Why you've not yet received a Nobel in Economics is a mystery.
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Old December 26th, 2013, 08:11 AM   #223
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This pronouncement came at a time when people were still owned as property, women could not vote and being gay was still a crime.

The Founding Fathers were men, not saints, and by no means perfect.

They set up a system that guaranteed that each person would be free to believe what they wanted and would be able to practice those beliefs free of government harassment. The only way to guarantee that would be to guarantee that religion did not play a part in our legislative decisions.

Did they fully practice what they had written? No.

Does that mean we should abandon those ideals and cease to strive towards them? Also no.
The sole intention of the separation of church and state guarunteed that there would be no prevailing religion recognizes by the Federal government, and that's all it says. It wasn't until the Court got involved that the waters got muddied in this issue.
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