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Old December 5th, 2013, 01:49 AM   #41
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Old December 5th, 2013, 06:06 AM   #42
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"Obama has fired a top officer every “8.8 days” on average — mostly for political reasons."

He has been in office for almost 6 years...thats a lot of military officers.

"Case in point: Obama gave Gen. Carter Ham of AFRICOM the boot after Ham challenged the Administration’s narrative on Benghazi. Ham contended that reinforcements could have been ordered to the scene of the 9/11/12 terror attack while Obama insisted that there were no reinforcements to be found."

And this is the reason...they have been dismissed. Anyone who does not back up his ideals gets the boot.

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Old December 5th, 2013, 06:40 AM   #43
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"Obama has fired a top officer every “8.8 days” on average — mostly for political reasons."

He has been in office for almost 6 years...thats a lot of military officers.

"Case in point: Obama gave Gen. Carter Ham of AFRICOM the boot after Ham challenged the Administration’s narrative on Benghazi. Ham contended that reinforcements could have been ordered to the scene of the 9/11/12 terror attack while Obama insisted that there were no reinforcements to be found."

And this is the reason...they have been dismissed. Anyone who does not back up his ideals gets the boot.
Unless, of course, you're interested in the truth;

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. Shakeout of High Ranking Military Leaders-Truth!

Some versions of this eRumor alleged that General Carter Ham was fired and they are unproven. Ham retired from the Army in 2013. On October 31, 2012, a little over a month after the attack on the U.S. Embassy facility in Benghazi, the Department of Defense released a statement that said General Carter Ham was retiring after President Obama nominated Army General David M. Rodriguez to succeed him as leader of Africom. Rodriguez was approved by the U.S. Senate for the post in March 2013 and one month later General Ham officially retired. TruthorFiction.Com reported his replacement in November 2012.

Not all the firings were directly done by President Obama as some versions of this eRumor may allege. Major General Ralph Baker was relieved of his post on April 4, 2013 by General Carter Ham owing to alcohol and sexual misconduct charges. This according to a April 5, 2013 article by Military.Com.

General Bryan Roberts was suspended for adultery and a physical altercation with according to a May 22, 2013 article by USA Today. Roberts's case remains under investigation.
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"Obama has fired a top officer every “8.8 days” on average — mostly for political reasons."

He has been in office for almost 6 years...thats a lot of military officers.
Well, now we know there is a claim that 197 senior officers have been dismissed for various reason under Obama. So that would make your average a bit high. I don't suppose you have any documentation for your claim these were mostly political, do you? I have to wonder just how much you know about the food chain for senior military officers. The answer would appear to be not much.

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"Case in point: Obama gave Gen. Carter Ham of AFRICOM the boot after Ham challenged the Administration’s narrative on Benghazi. Ham contended that reinforcements could have been ordered to the scene of the 9/11/12 terror attack while Obama insisted that there were no reinforcements to be found."
Case in point: it is a violation of the UCMJ (that is the law for the military) for a member of the military to publicly criticize those above him. The UCMJ makes no allowance for taking internal disagreements (even as to facts) to the court of public opinion or even publicly disagreeing with anyone further up your chain of command. That is what Gen. Ham did. That is why he is now retired.

You know that is what happened to all these dismissed senior officers, right? They weren't dismissed from the service just their assignments. They would all have been in service long enough to retire. That would be what they did, retire. Used to be a general officer got a one grade jump on retirement. Maybe they didn't get that. I don't know if it is still done. But I haven't heard of any of them being reduced in rank or subject to any other sanctions.

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And this is the reason...they have been dismissed. Anyone who does not back up his ideals gets the boot.
You have absolutely no evidence to support this statement. I suspect that is because it is just your misguided and under-informed opinion on a subject about which you know absolutely nothing. It is vile to tell lies like this. You are evil.
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it is 1 fired every 10 days, that is with Obama being in office a full 5 years, we are about 50 days short of that.
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Actually he is gutting the military when you break the moral of those that fill the foxholes, you gut the military.
Actually, he isn't gutting the military. Oh, our "professional" military is broke alright, due to over-use, but that is due to port and starboard combat tours for years resulting in 4, 5, 6 or more combat tours for each member of the volunteer force. That is why suicides are at high level, retention is falling and general combat effectiveness is deteriorating. The term "gut" isn't really very descriptive. What exactly do you mean by it...and what is your knowledge base in the subject?

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Taking away the few perks the private soldier has while giving those that sit and do nothing in society every benefit possible.. Why should they put their lives on the line.
What "perks" has he taken away from the "private soldier"? What exactly has he given to those that sit and do nothing? And, if you have to ask why our troops put their lives on the line, I doubt seriously you would understand the answer.


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Yes he has gutted the military, financially as well as preparedness.

Again with the unsourced claims. The sequester has done more to the military than anything Obama has done. If you look at his war record he is quite the hawk. If it wasn't against the rules for you folks to like him you would be very happy with his war record. Hell, he wants to stay in Afghanistan indefinitely.
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it is 1 fired every 10 days, that is with Obama being in office a full 5 years, we are about 50 days short of that.
And, so what? Was there nothing substantive you could say in response? I did make a lot of points there, you know.
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China ain't gonna do shit. China's well being depends on our well being.
You're not paying attention.

China’s military does not operate on an 8-year cycle like ours. They operate on plans calculated for decades at a time. In most cases, they bide their time waiting for the most advantageous times to make a move and this usually means when they detect a weakness in their opponents.

Such as now.
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And, so what? Was there nothing substantive you could say in response? I did make a lot of points there, you know.
someone said the 8.8 day average was incorrect.. I just calculated the average.

for 5 years, the 5 years is not quite up yet.. so the 8.8 isn't that far off.. and could be correct based when the author penned the article.
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No firing of an American General caused more loss in blood and treasure than this one;

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. General Shinseki -- fired for telling the truth to Rumsfeld

In the run-up to the Iraq War, one man stood up to the lies, bullshit,
and myths coming out of the White House and the Pentagon. General
Eric Shinseki, Army Chief of Staff, told Congress that a war in Iraq
and it's aftermath would require several hundred thousand troops and
would take at least ten years. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz -- neither of
whom knew a damn thing war -- attacked Shinseki as being "wildly off
the mark." They forced him to retire and neither of them was man
enough to attend his retirement ceremony. Now, Shinseki will head VA
while Rummy and Wolfowitz are burning in hell.
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