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Old June 2nd, 2015, 06:12 AM   #1
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The status quo cannot stand the truth

Rs and Ds, libs and cons, know who can't stand the truth. The other guys.

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Ron Paul: 'The status quo cannot stand the truth'

Former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) is defending his son Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a 2016 presidential candidate, against the mounting criticism from members of his own party.

"You know that you're on the right track when everybody's after you," Ron Paul said on Fox Business Network's "After the Bell."

"The status quo cannot stand the truth to be put out in the open," he added.

The elder Paul repeatedly brushed aside the notion that comments from his son, who advocates a less interventionist foreign policy, had essentially torpedoed his presidential campaign.

"He's doing very, very well," Paul, himself a two-time GOP presidential candidate, told Fox Business.

Last week, Rand Paul drew ire from fellow GOP White House hopefuls for saying that the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) "exists and grew stronger because of the hawks in our party, who gave arms indiscriminately, and most of those arms were snatched up by ISIS."

The GOP anger at Paul has been amplified since that remark, with the senator working to ensure that portions of the Patriot Act related to government surveillance would expire.

One of Paul’s sparring partners, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who announced his own 2016 White House bid Monday, was seen rolling his eyes while Paul spoke on the Senate floor.

Still, Paul has not backed down, arguing in an interview with conservative radio host Sean Hannity on Monday that he wants the NSA to collect even more records – but focus their targeting on those representing a threat to the U.S., mentioning suspects in the recent Garland, Texas, attack and 2013 Boston bombing.

"We need more analysts, we need more analysis," he said, suggesting domestic surveillance derailed more pertinent efforts meant to target suspected terrorists.

He has also attempted to smooth over rifts caused by his ISIS comments, saying in another interview Monday on Glenn Beck's radio program that, "The only party responsible for terrorism is terrorists."

Later on Monday, Ron Paul echoed his son's original remark on the issue, saying, "I think we helped create the jihadist mentality."

"If you're attacked, and truly attacked, it's the preservation of liberty that is the job of the government," he said when asked on Fox Business about appropriate national security measures following the 9/11 attacks.

Paul drew a parallel between his son and Edward Snowden, suggesting the controversial former National Security Agency contractor was detested among critics because he is "exposing our government for what they're doing."
Ron Paul: 'The status quo cannot stand the truth' | TheHill
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Old June 2nd, 2015, 06:39 AM   #2
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Ron Paul: 'The status quo cannot stand the truth' | TheHill
"I think we created the jihadist mentality"

You mean after 200 years of Colonialism in Asia, it may have finally come back to bite the west in the ass?

I wonder if Rand knows what "our interests" in the middle east really means?

When he musters the courage to call a spade a spade, and name names, I might actually start having some respect for the guy.
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The status quo cannot stand the truth ? Perhaps, but Citizens United is the much greater truth. Randy is toast. I have zero problem with the meta data program. CNN released a poll today that showed that 64% of Americans want the program to continue. The government is trying to look for some needles in a huge haystack. Randy uses the same lame logic I've heard before. He says just go after the bad guys. In other words, ignore the haystack and concentrate on the needles. Nice thought if it had a shred of feasibility. Like it or not, Randy bucked the Party and it's billionaires. Stick a fork in him. He's done.
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Fellow Republicans can't stand Rand Paul's NSA fight - BBC News

This BBC blogger thinks he might be winning with his approach. I didn't realize he is currently polling second in Iowa among Reps.

Plus let's face it, anyone who pisses off the GOP establishment must be doing something right.
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Fellow Republicans can't stand Rand Paul's NSA fight - BBC News

This BBC blogger thinks he might be winning with his approach. I didn't realize he is currently polling second in Iowa among Reps.

Plus let's face it, anyone who pisses off the GOP establishment must be doing something right.
Yep, and, well, look at skews and Camelot above. He gets under Ds' skin as well.

Just as is said in journalism, if both sides have a problem with an editorial, the writer musta done a good job.
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Yep, and, well, look at skews and Camelot above. He gets under Ds' skin as well.

Just as is said in journalism, if both sides have a problem with an editorial, the writer musta done a good job.
Paul is as phony as his old man. I think I'm pretty good at sizing up an individual. Paul sends alarm bells off in me and he will with the general public as well. Have your fun now. Just remember when I rub your nose in it later that you were an eager participant. You can't really think that he is going to be the Republican nominee, do you ?

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Paul is as phony as his old man. I think I'm pretty good at sizing up an individual. Paul sends alarm bells off in me and he will with the general public as well. Have your fun now. Just remember when I rub your nose in it later that you were an eager participant. You can't really think that he is going to be the Republican nominee, do you ?
Hell no. Look at the title of the thread.

And the delectable irony of a Hillary defender who's "pretty good at sizing up an individual" calling the Pauls phony made my afternoon. I got other stuff to do now....
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Paul is as phony as his old man. I think I'm pretty good at sizing up an individual. Paul sends alarm bells off in me and he will with the general public as well. Have your fun now. Just remember when I rub your nose in it later that you were an eager participant. You can't really think that he is going to be the Republican nominee, do you ?
I really disagree. I'm now in the camp that his flirtation with the fundie menace was a short-lived attempt at pandering to the RNC. He has now smartened up and is willing to say what he feels, even though it is hurting his standing with the GOP establishment.

That is courage. He should register as an independent or better still, take over the Libertarian Party. I like Gary Johnson's platform, but he isn't particularly dynamic, and he totally pissed me off last election when he chose to go mountain climbing rather than campagne.
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Yep, and, well, look at skews and Camelot above. He gets under Ds' skin as well.

Just as is said in journalism, if both sides have a problem with an editorial, the writer musta done a good job.
It's amazing how you can turn people on certain issues. You are an effective blogger when you can get them to fight among themselves.

The next step in raising Republicans like Rand, is to get them to actually come out of their mouth the fact that all of our problems in that part of the world were brought on by what our real interests are in the region. OIL.

All of our problems in the world are because of the oil companies.

Every God Damn one of them.

And this blogger won't stop until people curse the ground those bastards occupy, and make a push for a 100% weaning of our energy needs from them.

It's long past time to bury J.R Ewing and his counterparts, and I will use any measures necessary to help achieve that goal.

And everything is on the table.
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All of our problems in the world are because of the oil companies.

Every God Damn one of them.

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It's long past time to bury J.R Ewing and his counterparts, and I will use any measures necessary to help achieve that goal.

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What a load of crap.

And haven't you figured out yet that Dallas was a fictional soap opera and not a documentary?
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