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Old March 17th, 2017, 09:48 AM   #21
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Good thing the Constituion does no such thing.
What does the Constitution say? The only thing I've read is, the Federal government will not create a national religious denomination. What does your version say?
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Then why was Madison are ardent supporter of religious freedom?
Religious Freedom means that the government cannot reward, punish or otherwise interfere with an individual based on their religious belief (or lack of belief).

As an atheist I fully support religious freedom as well.

Religious freedom is why Madison opposed congressional and military chaplains.
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Of significance, IMO.

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The Heritage Foundation is an American conservative think tank based in Washington, D.C. The foundation took a leading role in the conservative movement during the presidency of Ronald Reagan, whose policies were taken from Heritage's policy study Mandate for Leadership.
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While Ms. Davis is on her own time that is true. The government can't tell her what to believe or punish her for whatever beliefs she has.

What Ms. Davis does AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GOVERNMENT is another matter entirely.

A police officer may believe that all Catholics are members of the IRA and are likely to have bomb making materials in their homes but he still can't search their homes without a warrant while they are at Sunday Mass.
How does government take precedence over personal religious beliefs? Simply put, they don't. As I recall, the GOVERNMENT didn't want to go down that road.
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How does government take precedence over personal religious beliefs? Simply put, they don't. As I recall, the GOVERNMENT didn't want to go down that road.
UH, because the United States is NOT a fucking theocracy.
The criminal laws and civil laws of this country are NOT superseded by what some jackass thinks their particular Holy Book tells them to do/believe.
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What does the Constitution say? The only thing I've read is, the Federal government will not create a national religious denomination. What does your version say?
Did you read your post before you hit send? What did I just say?
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Religious Freedom means that the government cannot reward, punish or otherwise interfere with an individual based on their religious belief (or lack of belief).

As an atheist I fully support religious freedom as well.

Religious freedom is why Madison opposed congressional and military chaplains.
Yet your friend took Madison's remarks as to mean he was against religious conviction, when clearly he wasn't. He was in fact supporting religious conviction. Your friend is a good example of why remarks taken out of context never end well.
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UH, because the United States is NOT a fucking theocracy.
The criminal laws and civil laws of this country are NOT superseded by what some jackass thinks their particular Holy Book tells them to do/believe.
Now your rambling. If you read Madison's remarks, they uphold religious conviction. That is the issue. Madison's entire history is one of supporting religious conviction. By placing freedom of conscience prior to and superior to all other rights, Madison gave it the strongest political foundation possible.
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Of significance, IMO.

On the Heritage Foundation:
There's no such thing as a conservative think tank.

That's an oxymoron.

The heritage foundation is a loosely nit organization of far right lunatic millionaires, that spew their far right bullshit as if it has any relevance or standing.

My 6 year old grandson reciting Mother Goose in a classroom with other 6 year olds, has more relevance than anything that comes out of the rolling joke that is the heritage foundation.
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Then why was Madison are ardent supporter of religious freedom?
another ignorant statement from the queen of ignorant statements .
you do understand what freedom of religion means ,right.
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anyway it means you can believe and practice any religion you wish or no religion at all .
if you have willfully misinterpreted it to mean you must believe, then as usual ,you are showcasing your stupidity and bigotry.
You have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Response: This claim is common, but it rests on a misunderstanding of what real freedom of religion entails. The most important thing to remember is that freedom of religion, if it is going to apply to everyone, also requires freedom from religion.
Freedom From Religion vs. Freedom of Religion Myth
atheism.about.com/od/churchstatemyths/a/freedomfrom.htm
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