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Old March 17th, 2017, 04:00 PM   #41
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A five post tantrum from Jimmyb!
Jerry Sandusky, didn't rationalize that much.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 04:06 PM   #42
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The criminal laws of the United States such as murder, manslaughter, rape, etc. are based directly on the Bible.
So you say. *shrug*
We are not, never have been, and never will be a fucking theocracy. Period.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 04:08 PM   #43
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We are not a government of people. We are a government of a compact between states. Article VI's no religious tests was created to protect the Protestant religion. There is no constitutional concept of freedom from religion.
Then it should have said that specifically, shouldn't it? It didn't, so tough shit, ALL religions are protected.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 04:14 PM   #44
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The criminal laws of the United States such as murder, manslaughter, rape, etc. are based directly on the Bible.
False!

https://www.au.org/church-state/june...ents-law-profs

U.S. Law Not Based On Ten Commandments, Law Profs Tell Court

American law is not based on the Ten Commandments, and nothing in the Constitution gives an Alabama judge a legal right to display the Decalogue in a court building, a group of legal historians and other scholars has advised a federal appeals court.

Forty-one law professors and legal historians weighed in on a lawsuit challenging Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore's display of the Ten Commandments in the state Judicial Building in Montgomery. The scholars were brought together by Steven K. Green, former legal director at Americans United and now law professor at Willamette University College of Law in Salem, Oregon.

The friend-of-the-court brief, filed April 28, musters ample historical evidence to debunk claims by Moore's attorneys that the judge has the right to display the Ten Commandments because they are the foundation of American law.

Nothing in the nation's legal history supports Moore's view, the legal scholars and historians say.

"Aside from a failed attempt in the seventeenth century to establish a biblically based legal system in the Puritan colonies, American law is generally viewed as having secular origins," asserts the brief.

The brief notes that "various documents and texts" figured in the development of American law, among them English common and statutory law, Roman law, the civil law of continental Europe and private international law.

American law, they point out, was also influenced by the writings of William Blackstone, John Locke, Adam Smith and others as well as the Magna Carta, the Federalist Papers and other sources.

"Each of these documents had a far greater influence on America's laws than the Ten Commandments," asserts the brief. "Indeed, the legal and historical record does not include significant and meaningful references to the Ten Commandments, the Pentateuch or to biblical law generally."

The brief notes that the U.S. Constitution lacks even "a perfunctory or formalistic reference to God" and says during the debate over ratification of that document, delegates discussed Roman law, British law and the laws of other European nations but "as can best be determined, no delegate ever mentioned the Ten Commandments or the Bible."

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We are not a government of people. We are a government of a compact between states. Article VI's no religious tests was created to protect the Protestant religion. There is no constitutional concept of freedom from religion.
Golly gee, then I guess the Constitution's preamble SHOULD read, "We the STATES of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, etc. etc." and NOT "We the PEOPLE of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, etc. etc." shouldn't it?
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What level of historical ignorance does it take to believe that Madison's opinions are personal opinions and that his words are irrelevant and never made it into the Constitution.
Who's other's opinions would he be expressing if not his own?
Show me in the Constituion those words. I've got my copy right here, give me the article and section numbers.
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Liberals performimg tag-teaming lying about American history and law. Fascinating.
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Old March 17th, 2017, 05:49 PM   #49
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another ignorant statement from the queen of ignorant statements .
you do understand what freedom of religion means ,right.
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anyway it means you can believe and practice any religion you wish or no religion at all .
if you have willfully misinterpreted it to mean you must believe, then as usual ,you are showcasing your stupidity and bigotry.
You have freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. Response: This claim is common, but it rests on a misunderstanding of what real freedom of religion entails. The most important thing to remember is that freedom of religion, if it is going to apply to everyone, also requires freedom from religion.
Freedom From Religion vs. Freedom of Religion Myth
atheism.about.com/od/churchstatemyths/a/freedomfrom.htm
A good argument. Doesn't apply but, good never the less.
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A good argument. Doesn't apply but, good never the less.
That can only be found on an atheist website. It does not exist in history.
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