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Old May 11th, 2017, 12:59 PM   #21
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And many others see see the relentless bashing of Hillary's actions in the PAST as a distraction from what trump is doing TODAY.
Trump was on the public payroll in 2012??....I didn't know that....I got to see what Wikipedia says about that...
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And many others see see the relentless bashing of Hillary's actions in the PAST as a distraction from what trump is doing TODAY.
That is EXACTLY what it is, the trumpansies need to create a smoke screen around their king.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:10 PM   #23
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Trump was on the public payroll in 2012??....I didn't know that....I got to see what Wikipedia says about that...
What didn't you understand about the statement ",,,distraction from what Trump is doing today?"
Where did i mention anything Trump did or said in 2012?
Your comment makes no sense.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:23 PM   #24
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Yes.....If only because of all the caterwauling we heard from the left bemoaning a Republican "witch-hunt", in the Benghazi/Hillary's e-mail investigation.. ..btw...Comey should have been fired long ago...


Necessary??...Yes...all the way back to Obama and Bill Clinton....be careful what you wish for...


When people expect a certain standard of proof they should be consistent and look for it on both sides....There was/is far more proof of Hillary's mismanagement, than there is of the Trump/Russia connection....So be consistent or look small..



The proof was there in the Benghazi/Hillary e-mail investigations....It was Obama, Loretta Lynch and James Comey who scuttled it (OMG!!!....Clara spelled a word wrong!!).....There are so many questions pending here too...Be careful what you wish for...


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....No, no matter who Trump nominates , the Democrats, led by Chuck Shumer and Nancy (Asshat) Pelozi will attack without mercy, and stall for as long as possible....unless Trump nominates Merrick Garland

...Oh, yes, it will go on for ever and ever and ever....

Absolutely....The Democrats will keep this myth on the front burner as long as possible, in order to distract from Hillary's e-mails which probably lead all the way back to Obama..


No matter who Trump fires or hires, the Democrats will try their damnedest to make it look either like the Administration is falling apart or that it is hiding something..



Your assuming he is "manipulating" in the first place....Proof of that assertion??



Now, I finally agree with you......And question Numer uno is....Who told Comey to obstruct the Hillary e-mail investigation...??...And why are the Democrats so predictable??




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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:25 PM   #25
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There is a small matter called "Statutes of Limitations"....What she did during her tenure as USSec of State still comes under statutes....If you want to push the Russia/Trump meme....You have to realize that some of us simply see it as a distraction (red herring) from Comey's involvement in Hillary's e-mail scandal, intended to run out the clock and save Hillary, an probably other's, bacon...
The Comey Clinton Crime Family connections go back further then that.
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The Trumpeteers really don't care what he does/says or has done or said in the past. As long as he is loud, coarse, common, rude, vulgar and has a third grader's idea of what machismo is, they'll support him. Because they're all the same. They all think that being loud, coarse, common, rude and vulgar makes them 'manly,' and they support the politician who they feel most strongly exemplifies those things.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 03:28 PM   #27
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At first glance, you have a point, but your comment is (IMO) a false equivalency. Clinton has been in politics for decades. Her personal life, lies, scandals, policies, relationships, foundation, taxes, speaking fees, mistakes, and party loyalties have been on public display--argued, published, vetted and loved or hated. Her experience level is something rare--first lady (gov and pres), Secretary of State and Senator. She's a centrist Democrat--always has been--who knows public and foreign policy COLD. She is a meticulous planner--highly educated on the legislative process, governing, history, influential D.C. people, and world events.
AND YES---she has issues--ethical issues, political issues, personal issues, and explosive past. Has she lied? Of course. Has she exaggerated? You bet. Clinton is flawed to the extreme, but compared to DJTrump, Clinton walks on water.
Trump has ethical issues that Clinton can't even being to match. He entered the presidency with 75 fraud lawsuits pending. He has bragged about bribing, sexual assault, adultery, employing illegal immigrants, sending jobs to China, his wealth, his schemes, his avoidance to pay taxes and much more. Trump is the first candidate in decades not to release his tax returns. We know he probably hasnít paid much if any federal income tax since 1995, when he lost $916 million, contradicting his claims to be a savvy businessman, but we donít know what other ethical land mines are buried in his records. Does he have financial as well as sentimental ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin? No way to know.

We do know Trump is intolerant of dissent. He threatened lawsuits against his accusers and libel suits against newspapers that have reported their allegations. He wants to loosen libel laws to facilitate such suits. He has incited violence at his rallies. He is, in short, an authoritarian who should never have been given control of the FBI and IRS, because NOW he has fired the very person (and two others) in charge of an investigation that MAY involve HIM personally.
Trump lacks a presidential temperament. He gets flustered when he isn't adored. Trump is also almost completely ignorant of public and foreign policy. He has insulted our allies, praised world dictators and made numerous enemies IN HIS OWN PARTY---which he has changed at least three times in the past 2 decades.
He is NOT a conservative--not a uniter--and has no intention of making America great again. Trump doesn't seem to give a fig about nuclear proliferation and in fact says "Why bother having nuclear weapons if we aren't going to use them?"

So, YES. Clinton has enemies but does she have more than Trump? As many as Trump? She has been investigated on every possible level from fruit to nuts including her husbands disastrous affairs to her personal email server, from Whitewater to Benghazi, with a DNC hot mess in the middle. Love her or hate her we KNOW her--inside and out--which doesn't matter any more because Clinton is not the president of the United States.

Trump?? Well, that's another story. There's too much we do not know, but by the time his presidency comes to an end, I'm betting we'll have enough sewage to drown in it.

And one more thing: The Media. The powerful MEDIA. AND they alone may be Trump's undoing.
Maybe but Mrs Clinton whole life was not on public display. She hid her motives and lacked transparency and this got her in trouble and begged for a refined microscope.

The private server was a self inflicted wound and showed us the dynamics of going around security protocol and her above the regulation attitude. I held a clearance and if I pulled that stunt I would be in a federal prison.
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The Trumpeteers really don't care what he does/says or has done or said in the past. As long as he is loud, coarse, common, rude, vulgar and has a third grader's idea of what machismo is, they'll support him. Because they're all the same. They all think that being loud, coarse, common, rude and vulgar makes them 'manly,' and they support the politician who they feel most strongly exemplifies those things.
You are 1000% correct, since trump came on the scene racists have come out from under their rocks, right wing hate mongering has increased, and the right can't understand why they are despised by most of the civilized world.
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Old May 11th, 2017, 05:37 PM   #29
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Maybe but Mrs Clinton whole life was not on public display. She hid her motives and lacked transparency and this got her in trouble and begged for a refined microscope.

The private server was a self inflicted wound and showed us the dynamics of going around security protocol and her above the regulation attitude. I held a clearance and if I pulled that stunt I would be in a federal prison.
There were NO PROTOCOLs for private servers or email accounts when Hillary was in office, she was under the same non rules as Colin Powell and Condi Rice.
I also have held clearances from Confidential to Top Secret Crypto, although my time was long before email the same rules apply today as when I held a clearance as it pertains to headings and sub headings.
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The Comey Clinton Crime Family connections go back further then that.
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