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Old May 18th, 2017, 07:39 PM   #11
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Yeah, Putin is such a cool dude. Too bad we don't have a leader of his caliber, or a press like Russia's.
Do not fret. The journalist integrity in the United States is pretty much on par with a banana republic government press agency. At least the story did not have a bunch of unnamed sources with acquaintances who read something that we never saw but were going to say they did and told us what it was.
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Do not fret. The journalist integrity in the United States is pretty much on par with a banana republic government press agency. At least the story did not have a bunch of unnamed sources with acquaintances who read something that we never saw but were going to say they did and told us what it was.
Yeah, maybe, but still it would be nice if we had a president with the leadership credentials of Putin, a real leader.
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Yeah, maybe, but still it would be nice if we had a president with the leadership credentials of Putin, a real leader.
I am pretty sure that we will have whatever type president that our esteemed journalist decide they want us to have.
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I am pretty sure that we will have whatever type president that our esteemed journalist decide they want us to have.
Trump already regrets the day he declared war on the press.

Of all the stupid things he's done, that act might be the dumbest.
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Brings a tear to the eyes.... such sincerity.
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Poroshenko? Eastern Slavic nations' governments all suck, for the same and different reasons but they all suck. The majority of the people don't really expect to have any unalienable rights, so if they have some of their unalienable rights sometimes, that's cool and pretty much all they hope for anyway.
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Trump already regrets the day he declared war on the press.

Of all the stupid things he's done, that act might be the dumbest.
Do you defend half truths and flat out lies from the media in order to reach a desired political result? You seem to be very quick at pointing a accusing finger at Trump supporters. Yet, at this particular juncture you seem at ease at defending this lack of journalism integrity. What makes no sense at all to me is why? You realize once we establish this type of journalism is acceptable, which is all about selling newspapers and ratings, that it will be with us forever. Presidents are dime a dozen. They come and they go. Many on the left are defending journalist lying. They use excuses by saying well Trump lied. Yes, he has, and he will. But Trump will go away. The News sources will not. What you are doing is falling on your own sword and your not even aware of it or you do not care. Then,what really shines through to me is all the wailing and lamenting about the fascist Trump and he is going to destroy America. I am just utterly and totally saddened that what use to be rational people have fell prey to this thinking. The day that a major political party supports openly putting labels on people who disagree with them then demand they have no platform to be heard from was a sad day. The irony is they are using a weaponized press to help them,and that press cares about one thing. Making money.
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Do you defend half truths and flat out lies from the media in order to reach a desired political result? You seem to be very quick at pointing a accusing finger at Trump supporters. Yet, at this particular juncture you seem at ease at defending this lack of journalism integrity. What makes no sense at all to me is why? You realize once we establish this type of journalism is acceptable, which is all about selling newspapers and ratings, that it will be with us forever. Presidents are dime a dozen. They come and they go. Many on the left are defending journalist lying. They use excuses by saying well Trump lied. Yes, he has, and he will. But Trump will go away. The News sources will not. What you are doing is falling on your own sword and your not even aware of it or you do not care. Then,what really shines through to me is all the wailing and lamenting about the fascist Trump and he is going to destroy America. I am just utterly and totally saddened that what use to be rational people have fell prey to this thinking. The day that a major political party supports openly putting labels on people who disagree with them then demand they have no platform to be heard from was a sad day. The irony is they are using a weaponized press to help them,and that press cares about one thing. Making money.
None of this is new. Labels? Because I opposed the Iraq War I and others like me were labeled traitors by angry and sometimes threatening Republicans. The press of 2002-2003 was a cheerleader for the biggest foreign policy blunder in the history of the US. A responsible, incisive press was absent in the run-up to the invasion. The huge demonstrations all over the world were barely covered if at all by the US press.

I don't defend a lying press or a lying president, so please rein in your assumptions.

Yes, I wail and lament Trump and his presidency. The fascist label is unneeded and not a part of my intense dislike for him. His environmental policies and attitude, his position on coal use, his idiotic failure to appreciate our national parks and monuments, his failure to recognize Putin as an enemy.... frankly, I don't agree with him on anything of consequence.

It's my right and duty to oppose his policies, and the man himself. He's a pitiful role model for our children.

So, the angst you feel for leftists and Trump opponents I've been feeling since the Vietnam War. All these undeclared wars share one common denominator, which you've already mentioned: making money.
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