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Old June 25th, 2017, 10:50 PM   #11
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I really wonder if he realizes that by trying to deflect some of the attention to Obama, he's actually admitting something he has essentially denied all this time.



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Old June 26th, 2017, 01:48 AM   #12
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IF they are the source of the email leaks they ABSOLUTELY help get Trump elected. Isn't exposing Hillary's and the DNC's corruption a very large part of WHY she lost the election ??? There were an awful lot of Berniecrats that either stayed home or voted for independent candidates.

It all came down to just a few counties in a handful of states. In each and every case MORE people voted for independent candidates than the difference between Trump and Clinton. ie: County X had 150,000 people vote for Trump, 140,000 for Clinton, but 40,000 voted for independent candidates. So yes the Russians absolutely influenced the election. My question is why ?? What do they get out it ?? Do I think Trump is directly involved ??? I doubt it. I don't think he's that smart.
MacMillan won one state because Clinton win only with 266-265 with Three states hacked Pennsylvania maybe Michigan and one more state in America's election 16.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 04:24 AM   #13
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I keep repeating this....

My wife watches the Russian state TV channels every day. The whole country of Russia was rooting for Trump. "Off microphone," Russian pols told their constituents that a Trump win meant the lifting of sanctions. Celebrations were held after his victory.

There's no proof of Trump and Putin colluding. As Bubba said, Trump isn't smart enough to pull that off. Putin got what he wanted. He shook Americans' faith in our system, and our in each other.
So let me see if I understand this.....Because the Russians, thinking Trump would lift sanctions, wanted Trump to win......That makes Trump the illegitimate winner??...which begs to question....What was Bernie's position regarding the Russian sanctions??
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Old June 26th, 2017, 04:41 AM   #14
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No!!!

The corruption in the DNC and especially in Clinton is a major reason why they lost. Had they not been done all of that shady shit there would have been nothing to expose. It is cowardly and dishonest to attempt shift the blame to the person(s) who may have exposed the crimes.

Yes you are correct, had Hillary and the DNC not pulled their shit, there would have been nothing to release. I'm not absolving them of that.

However, whoever hacked them used what they found in a classic "October surprise". They did so with clear malice and intent to perpetuate their own agenda.
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Old June 26th, 2017, 06:04 AM   #15
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I keep repeating this....

My wife watches the Russian state TV channels every day. The whole country of Russia was rooting for Trump. "Off microphone," Russian pols told their constituents that a Trump win meant the lifting of sanctions. Celebrations were held after his victory.

There's no proof of Trump and Putin colluding. As Bubba said, Trump isn't smart enough to pull that off. Putin got what he wanted. He shook Americans' faith in our system, and our in each other.
Undermining Americans faith in each other comes more from the DNC election fraud and the violence from the left toward American political opposition.
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So let me see if I understand this.....Because the Russians, thinking Trump would lift sanctions, wanted Trump to win......That makes Trump the illegitimate winner??...which begs to question....What was Bernie's position regarding the Russian sanctions??
Try to make sense when you post, and reply, please, to what I've said. Thanks.
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Undermining Americans faith in each other comes more from the DNC election fraud and the violence from the left toward American political opposition.
Like I said, both parties make good and bad points, but both claim to be the good guys, right all or almost all the time.

Your post provides an example of to what I referred.
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Like I said, both parties make good and bad points, but both claim to be the good guys, right all or almost all the time.

Your post provides an example of to what I referred.
No evidence of republican fraud, there is from democrats. And much more violence from the left than the right.
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No evidence of republican fraud, there is from democrats. And much more violence from the left than the right.
What we have here is an example of partisan blinders.
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What we have here is an example of partisan blinders.
You got any observation, any news report, even an opinion that disputes my statement?
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