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Old July 27th, 2017, 08:35 AM   #21
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Another excellent article about the direction Trump is taking our nation. As always, I don't expect it to make a blip on the brain cells of the Trump adoring worshipers. But, for the rest of us - the ones who haven't yet been hypnotized by the New Speak of the 21st century - it's quite articulate and well thought out.


The news is being reported on split screen as if the one big story in Washington is disconnected from the other. But President Trump’s lawless threats against Attorney General Jeff Sessions have a lot in common with the Senate’s reckless approach to the health coverage of tens of millions of Americans.

On both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue, we are witnessing a collapse of the norms of governing, constant violations of our legitimate expectations of political leaders, and the mutation of the normal conflicts of democracy into a form of warfare that demands the opposition’s unconditional surrender.

Trump’s latest perverse miracle is that he has progressives — along with everyone else who cares about the rule of law — rooting for Sessions. The attorney general is as wrong as ever on voter suppression, civil rights enforcement and immigration. But Sessions did one very important thing: He obeyed the law.

When it was clear that he would have obvious conflicts of interest in the investigation of Russian meddling in our election and its possible links to the Trump campaign, Sessions recused himself, as he was required to do.

Trump’s attacks on Sessions for that recusal are thus a naked admission that he wants the nation’s top lawyer to act illegally if that’s what it takes to protect the president and his family. Equally inappropriate are Trump’s diktats from the Oval Office calling on Sessions to investigate Hillary Clinton and those terrible “leakers” who are more properly seen as whistleblowers against Trump’s abuses.

Our country is now as close to crossing the line from democracy to autocracy as it has been in our lifetimes. Trump’s ignorant, self-involved contempt for his duty under Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed” ought to inspire patriots of every ideological disposition to a robust and fearless defiance.

But where are the leaders of the Republican Party in the face of the dangers Trump poses? They’re trying to sneak through a health-care bill by violating every reasonable standard citizens should impose on public servants dealing with legislation that affects more than one-sixth of our economy. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul D. Ryan have little time for worrying about the Constitution because they are busy doing Trump’s bidding on health care.

Let it be said that two Republican senators will forever deserve our gratitude for insisting that a complicated health-care law should be approached the way Obamacare — yes, Obamacare — was enacted: through lengthy hearings, robust debate and real input from the opposition party. In voting upfront to try to stop the process, Sens. Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski demonstrated a moral and political toughness that eluded other GOP colleagues who had expressed doubts about this charade but fell into line behind their leaders.

The most insidious aspect of McConnell’s strategy is that he is shooting to pass something, anything, that would continue to save Republicans from having a transparent give-and-take on measures that could ultimately strip health insurance from 20 million Americans or more. Passing even the most meager of health bills this week would move the covert coverage-demolition effort to a conference committee with the House.

The Senate’s unseemly marathon thus seems likely to end with a push for a “skinny repeal” bill that would eliminate the Affordable Care Act’s individual and employer mandates and its medical device tax. But no one should be deluded: A vote for skinny repeal is a vote for an emaciated democracy.

A wholesale defeat of what might be described as the Trump-McConnell-Ryan Unhealthy America Act of 2017 is essential for those being served by the ACA but also for our politics. It was disappointing that Sen. John McCain’s passionate plea on Tuesday for a “return to regular order” did not match his votes in this week’s early roll calls.

But McCain could yet advance the vision of the Senate he outlined in his floor speech and rebuke “the bombastic loudmouths” he condemned by casting a “no” vote at the crucial moment. Here’s hoping this war hero will ultimately choose to strike a blow against everything he said is wrong with Congress.

And when it comes to the ongoing indifference to the law in the White House, Republicans can no longer dodge their responsibility to speak out against what Trump is doing. They should also examine their own behavior. The decline of our small-r republican institutions can be stopped only if the party brandishing that adjective starts living up to the obligations its name honors.

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When I read things like this I am reminded why I voted for king trump. Thanks tris. I have archived this. I will pull it out whenever I feel a bit disenfranchised.


Here in the Midwest there is a market for liberal tears in case you guys are ever in need to subsidize your incomes. Eventually we will run out of them to shower in and once you get used to such luxury it is hard to go back to simple tap water.


So....you voted for our sitting president, who has the authority to FIRE his Attorney General, but would rather humiliate him (repeatedly)--in a public forum? You voted for a president who would rather rule in an autocracy--who has no experience, knowledge or expertise in the legislative process? You voted for a president who uses a bully pulpit to belittle HIS own party's senators? You voted for a president who (like a dictator) appoints his own family to positions of power, and trusts no one, including his cabinet members? You voted for a president who lied and lied and lied throughout his campaign? You voted for a president who has created the most dysfunctional West Wing and Congress in our history---a president who threatens, retaliates, and closes all channels of communications to his colleagues and the public, except to Tweet? You voted for a man who has created a huge divide within his own party? AND that's all great??
I hate to state the obvious, Sab, but IMHO you voted for Trump because he's the closest thing to an Anarchist you could find. You are delighted that we the people now have a racist, misogynist, authoritarian, Russian appeaser and xenophobe as our president. You LOVE this hijacker and arsonist-- a sexual predator and molester--this guy who has turned our republic upside down.
Congrats. You must be walking on Cloud 9.
Your wish has finally been granted.
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Old July 27th, 2017, 08:37 AM   #22
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Damned off-topic crap.

DJT has no respect for the rule of law. And, he the current president.
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LOL Wolfe does not HAVE to do any such thing. Didn't you understand his comment?
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When I read things like this I am reminded why I voted for king trump. Thanks tris. I have archived this. I will pull it out whenever I feel a bit disenfranchised.


Here in the Midwest there is a market for liberal tears in case you guys are ever in need to subsidize your incomes. Eventually we will run out of them to shower in and once you get used to such luxury it is hard to go back to simple tap water.
When I read things like this, I am reminded that a war was fought to free the Colonies from the rule of a king who believed himself to be above any earthly laws.

And I'm reminded that folks like you declare and celebrate having a king.
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Old July 27th, 2017, 08:44 AM   #25
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How have the courts ruled since the introduction of the XIVth Amendment?

What is the current legal precedent regarding the XIVth Amendment?
So, in your opinion, if the Court reaches a decision that is not founded in Constitutional Law, your good with that? If you are, then you have elevated the power of the Court far beyond its original intent.
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Thanks for that...Capt. Obvious.
So, you should be telling that to Jimmyb, not me.
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So, in your opinion, if the Court reaches a decision that is not founded in Constitutional Law, your good with that? If you are, then you have elevated the power of the Court far beyond its original intent.
On what basis are you saying "not found in the constitution"? Your and Jimmy's opinion?

Get serious.
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So, in your opinion, if the Court reaches a decision that is not founded in Constitutional Law, your good with that? If you are, then you have elevated the power of the Court far beyond its original intent.
Explain how these decisions were reached in a way that is "not founded in Constitutional Law" because I say they WERE founded on Constitutionalnl Law.

The intent of the court is exactly for this. If there is a question on Constitutionaln Law they are the ones to interpret it.

What do you think th purpose of the court is?
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On what basis are you saying "not found in the constitution"? Your and Jimmy's opinion?

Get serious.
If your of that opinion, then show us where in the Constitution, you base that opinion on. Where, in the Constitution is the phrase "incorporation doctrine" used?
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How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Wood, is about the only thing your chucking.
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