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Old September 19th, 2017, 04:18 AM   #11
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I'm not sure if we're in imperial decline. I think we're in a republican (small r) decline into Caesarism.
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Old September 19th, 2017, 06:51 AM   #12
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Cruz can be republican president in eight years from election 2020 and to start in 2021.
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Old September 20th, 2017, 07:03 PM   #13
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Really now? You're not an American?
Because I'm an American and i don't recall "suffering through 8 long years of a socialist President."

I must have somehow missed that. Do be so kind as the name this "socialist President" and briefly describe the "suffering" of the American people during that eight year period. Thank you.



Unless of course, you're just being and idiotic fucking troll and your post has no more meaning or relevance than a fart in a hurricane.
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Well? Still waiting for a description of American suffering under the 8 years of a as yet unnamed "socialist President."
Carry on.
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Old September 20th, 2017, 09:01 PM   #14
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Well? Still waiting for a description of American suffering under the 8 years of a as yet unnamed "socialist President."
Carry on.
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Well? Still waiting on a link to any time that you have carried on a constructive conversation w/ anyone on DTT w/ an opposing view for more than just a few posts and stayed on topic.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 05:32 AM   #15
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Well? Still waiting on a link to any time that you have carried on a constructive conversation w/ anyone on DTT w/ an opposing view for more than just a few posts and stayed on topic.
Such a poor memory you have. Have I not told you that I do not give a flying fuck what your personal definition of a constructive conversation might be?

Pitiful attempt at being caconservative's wing man, no wonder he's so frequently shot down in flames.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 05:51 AM   #16
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Well? Still waiting on a link to any time that you have carried on a constructive conversation w/ anyone on DTT w/ an opposing view for more than just a few posts and stayed on topic.
That's why I don't feed the trolls.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 05:57 AM   #17
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Tax cuts for the wealthy have done NOTHING to reverse the deindustrialization of America. Since the early 1960's companies have been moving factories offshore. Walmart is by far the largest perpetrator of this tend. Intentionally driving companies into bankruptcy so they or a Chinese partner can buy up the assets move to China. NAFTA and the other 9 or 10 free trade agreements (seriously we needed an FTA with Morocco ??) only increased this trend. There is ZERO incentive in our tax code to keep companies from moving operations offshore. The truth is THEY GET TO WRITE THE EXPENSES OF MOVING off their American taxes !!!! Obama tried to close that one loophole but the Republicans stopped it.

What we need and what no one is really talking about is CORPORATE tax reform. We need to SIMPLIFY the corporate code, which would save companies BILLIONS of dollars in accounting fees, get rid of ALL targeted tax incentives and institute a minimum that all would pay. In return we can drop the top bracket to 28% and allow a one time repatriation of offshore cash at 15% to 20% tax rate. Achieving the minimum tax rate would be linked to jobs and pay scales. The more jobs you create, and the more you pay the less you pay in taxes down to the minimum.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 06:07 AM   #18
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Would that zeitgeist shift be because the Left has failed? After all, we did suffer through 8 long years because of a socialist president. Weimar Germany was in the midst of severe recession. That's hardly the case now.
Suffer ??? Hhhhhmmmmm lets see. I remained employed thru the recession and I work in the auto industry which was second hardest hit after housing. I had cashed out an old 401 and bought back into the market in February of 2009 that account has more tripled in value since then. I bought a Fannie repo house country house / investment property which is worth at least double in value in five years and the interest rate on the mortgage actually went DOWN this year !! OMG !!!

The only down side is like most people working for corporate America I haven't seen a meaningful raise in more than a decade. But overall I'm financially better off than I've ever been in my life.

Over all I did pretty well under Obama.
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Old September 23rd, 2017, 10:40 AM   #19
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The saddest part is that you simply aren't smart enough to understand that you are being played by the system.
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Who are you talking to and how exactly is that person being "played by the system?"
He is quite obviously talking to himself, and the "saddest part" is that he is entirely too stupid and brainwashed to realize that.
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Old September 23rd, 2017, 10:47 AM   #20
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...Conservatives, of course, do not see any of this in their proposals; they imagine a return to the spectacular growth of the postwar decades, if only they can somehow remove what they see as the crippling burden of taxes and regulations on the rich, who would otherwise become the engines of a new American renaissance.

But this is a fantasy, a pipe dream; the rich have been taxed and regulated far less in the past forty years than they were during the postwar economic boom, and we have seen no new renaissance...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...perial-Decline
"Is Conservatism A Sign Of Imperial Decline?"

It definitely seems like one of the indicators.

But even more so, modern Trump-style conservatism is an unmistakeable sign of rightwing mental decline.
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