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Old September 21st, 2017, 06:23 AM   #31
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Seriously, to post this you have to completely ignore reality.
There was never a legitimate question of where Obama was born, that was nonsense from the start.
And the evidence of voter fraud suggests that maybe one out of ten million votes is fraudulent. Which may just make it the most honest process on the planet.

Here's the key to analyzing voter fraud, ever voter has to provide an address, we know where every voter lives, fraud becomes very obvious, if I give a fake address, someone else is already registered there, or the address doesn't exist.
And when then voting is examined in great detail, the evidence shows it's legit. It's not that they can't prove fraud, it's that the evidence proves there was no fraud.

In Carolina, 1000 dead people voted, each and every instance was thoroughly investigated, and in EVERY instance, the actual voter was identified, as a legitimate voter, ZERO fraud.

In New Hampshire, where Kris Kobach alleged that 5300 people voted fraudulently, and whipped up a bunch of excited morons, he quickly changed his claim to "at one vote has to be fraudulent."
Overstating the actual number of fraudulent votes by 1.

The proof there is no massive voter fraud is that it's been looked for and not found, and it's hard to hide.
The only reasonable explanation of the actual results is that fraudulent votes number in the dozens, out of a billion votes cast.
What did I say when I first started posting on this thread? Let me summarize my posts:

A) I do not read Breitbart - never have

I'm not taking sides

YOU don't pay attention to what you read. When Barack Obama, himself, said he was born in Kenya; when his grandmother stated such; when his book publisher allowed a book to be published, identifying him as a Kenyan (and we interpret that to mean his place of birth), yes sir, it did become a legitimate question.

You want to call people an idiot for accepting Obama at his word while ignoring the more important issue. Obama could not have been a real president. His loyalties were not with the United States.

On your next issue, and again I said you should prove it, YOU said you could not prove a "negative" and yet you are introducing references to evidence that may (or may not) prove your case.

There is no point in challenging my IQ for standing on the outside looking in and making rational observations. I've heard the back and forth. I'm looking for someone to step forward and provide something more than telling me I'm a idiot if I don't believe in their political opinions.

When I post here I give links and show that my conclusions are based upon fact... not always what I believe or want to believe, but what the facts are. But, since we're going to challenge each other's IQ, let me say this:

When Obama's grandmother, Obama and those putting out material written by Obama all claim the man was born in Kenya it can become an issue. If you don't agree with that point, there is something amiss in the way YOU think. Regardless of his country of birth, Obama let you know he was a Muslim whose loyalties lie more with Kenyans than with the Americans he loathed and despised. Remember, sir, we're talking about a president that even had a problem with the American flag.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 04:25 PM   #32
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What did I say when I first started posting on this thread? Let me summarize my posts:

A) I do not read Breitbart - never have

I'm not taking sides

YOU don't pay attention to what you read. When Barack Obama, himself, said he was born in Kenya; when his grandmother stated such; when his book publisher allowed a book to be published, identifying him as a Kenyan (and we interpret that to mean his place of birth), yes sir, it did become a legitimate question.

You want to call people an idiot for accepting Obama at his word while ignoring the more important issue. Obama could not have been a real president. His loyalties were not with the United States.

On your next issue, and again I said you should prove it, YOU said you could not prove a "negative" and yet you are introducing references to evidence that may (or may not) prove your case.

There is no point in challenging my IQ for standing on the outside looking in and making rational observations. I've heard the back and forth. I'm looking for someone to step forward and provide something more than telling me I'm a idiot if I don't believe in their political opinions.

When I post here I give links and show that my conclusions are based upon fact... not always what I believe or want to believe, but what the facts are. But, since we're going to challenge each other's IQ, let me say this:

When Obama's grandmother, Obama and those putting out material written by Obama all claim the man was born in Kenya it can become an issue. If you don't agree with that point, there is something amiss in the way YOU think. Regardless of his country of birth, Obama let you know he was a Muslim whose loyalties lie more with Kenyans than with the Americans he loathed and despised. Remember, sir, we're talking about a president that even had a problem with the American flag.
If that shit really happened, you'd have a point, but it didn't.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 05:22 PM   #33
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If that shit really happened, you'd have a point, but it didn't.
OMG. Really???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcd41RO25k


Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - Israel National News

Somebody heard exactly what I heard and filed a lawsuit

Finally:

"The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself...."

Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

Yep. His biographer made a convenient "mistake," his grandmother said what she did and there are plenty of witnesses and Obama is Muslim and born in Kenya when it's convenient and an American born in Hawaii when he wants to call white people morons.

I won't ask you to apologize for insinuating I was a liar. The people who support that piece of scatalogical waste are pretty consistent in their lack of ethics.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 06:57 PM   #34
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OMG. Really???


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcd41RO25k


Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes. - Israel National News

Somebody heard exactly what I heard and filed a lawsuit

Finally:

"The editor of the biographical text about Barack Obama which was included in the booklet maintained that the mention of Kenya was an error on her part and was not based on any information provided to her by Obama himself...."

Obama's Literary Agent Said He Was Born in Kenya?

Yep. His biographer made a convenient "mistake," his grandmother said what she did and there are plenty of witnesses and Obama is Muslim and born in Kenya when it's convenient and an American born in Hawaii when he wants to call white people morons.

I won't ask you to apologize for insinuating I was a liar. The people who support that piece of scatalogical waste are pretty consistent in their lack of ethics.
Not a liar, maybe a moron.
That Obama tape is an obvious edit.
Don't believe me?
Obama Admits Not Being Born in Hawaii
You were PWNED!

Molotov Mitchell?

PWNED AGAIN!

And a literary agent did a one pager without reading the book.
PWNED for the Third Time.

I don't doubt that you were exposed to information that purported that Obama was born in Kenya, I'm saying that that information wasn't even remotely credible.
You gotta learn how to discern bullshit, it's really not that hard.
A huge clue is that the story appears on Breitbart or other Right wing propaganda sites, but nowhere in the main stream media.
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Old September 21st, 2017, 07:02 PM   #35
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Even tRump has given up on the birther shit.

His new favorite lie is the Crooked Hillary shit.
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 04:26 AM   #36
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Not a liar, maybe a moron.
That Obama tape is an obvious edit.
Don't believe me?
Obama Admits Not Being Born in Hawaii
You were PWNED!

Molotov Mitchell?

PWNED AGAIN!

And a literary agent did a one pager without reading the book.
PWNED for the Third Time.

I don't doubt that you were exposed to information that purported that Obama was born in Kenya, I'm saying that that information wasn't even remotely credible.
You gotta learn how to discern bullshit, it's really not that hard.
A huge clue is that the story appears on Breitbart or other Right wing propaganda sites, but nowhere in the main stream media.
Your attempts to lie to the people on this board go beyond what ought to be acceptable in society.

Quite frankly, I don't give two hoots in Hell about Breitbart. Andrew Breitbart, the individual, was an Irishman who was abandoned as a baby, adopted by Jews and converted to Judaism and then tried to remain true to his Jewish upbringing AND take up being agnostic.


Steve Bannon took over Breitbart upon Andrew's death and he is hard to figure. Bannon described Breitbart News as the platform to the alt right. What??? The alt right was founded by Richard Spencer, who is a self proclaimed atheist.

Bannon was connected to Goldman Sachs which is a corporate member of the Council on Foreign Relations (which promotes a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.) Additionally, Bannon has had high profile, left wing Jewish organizations come to his aid. According to Wikipedia:

"Ben Shapiro,[80][81][82] David Horowitz,[83] Pamela Geller,[84] Bernard Marcus of the Republican Jewish Coalition,[85] Morton Klein[86] and the Zionist Organization of America,[85] and Rabbi Shmuley Boteach[87] defended Bannon against the allegations of antisemitism. Alan Dershowitz first defended Bannon and said there was no evidence he was antisemitic,[88][89] but in a later piece stated that Bannon had made bigoted statements against Muslims, women, and others..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bannon

Of course exposing Muslims and making a "bigoted" statement against women does not equal anti semitism (sic.)

See this for additional information:


Meet Breitbart News, the site run by Donald Trump adviser Steve Bannon - Business Insider

https://altright.com/2017/01/23/the-...ular-humanism/

Back to the issue at hand:

I don't read Breitbart. For you to continually harp on that is the epitome of dishonesty. Your name calling and denigration of others is despicable and cowardly - as is standard operating procedure for those wanting to support Barack Obama.

I have not been "pwned" (whatever in the Hell that is), conned, or B.S.ed by anyone other than those much like yourself. I, like millions of other Americans, heard with our own ears Obama's grandmother state that Obama was born in Kenya. For you to insinuate I - or any of those others are liars is pure chickenshit on your part.

The facts still remain that in the book, the publisher stated Obama was born in Kenya. You cannot dismiss that with all the name calling in the world. That leaves the other question. Repeatedly, Obama stated that he IS a Muslim:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9mZCRX2mg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMhB-CwF4yc&t=19s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s1z4b0S1Z8&t=56s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f5jbIZ4fqw&t=437s

What OBAMA has said about Obama and what his family has said about him is undeniable, irrefutable, and beyond any question. Any normal, intelligent, rational human being, after hearing Obama talk about his Kenyan roots had no reason to question him when he stated that he was born in Kenya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFMfaovzCSQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLGItF-Y8Uc

As a matter of FACT, Obama insinuated he was born in Kenya all the way up to about 2007 and he and HE ALONE created the birther fiasco. My way of thinking is that fool us once, shame on you. Fool us twice, shame on us. You're mad because the American people DID catch on. Obama got one over on the right and discredited them, but they took their lumps and moved forward, carefully documenting all that liar had to say from then on.

I never got involved in the birther deal and don't give a rat's rear about it today. It's irrelevant history EXCEPT for one thing:

As a Muslim, Barack could not keep his oath of office and he misled the American people. What IS important is that Obama lied and he did so deliberately. I don't need Breitbart or anyone else to decipher what I heard with my own ears and saw with my own eyes. And for you to come here and try to question my intelligence shows the depths to which people like will sink to when they are obviously losing and being exposed for what they are.

Insofar as the MSM - They never report on anything that is detrimental to their interests. The MSM used to come out here and try to figure a way to do stories on the local militia. They couldn't get a decent shot with their cameras that did not include blacks, Hispanics or Orientals. They could not sell the people on the narrative that the militia here was racist. So, they packed up and never did the story.

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Horowitz and Shapiro are Jews, but in no discernible way leftists.
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Old September 22nd, 2017, 07:38 AM   #38
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Horowitz and Shapiro are Jews, but in no discernible way leftists.
Wikipedia describes Alan Dershowitz as a liberal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dershowitz

Ditto for the Zionist Organization of America:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionis...ion_of_America

Since Morton Klein is the president of the Zionist Organization of America, he would, naturally, be liberal.

Bannon is more represented by Zionist interests rather than being defined as liberal or conservative. Either way, when you have questionable loyalties, being involved in the politics of America is not the best way to avoid skepticism and criticism. Me, personally, I think that Bannon had the same loyalty issue that Obama had. Bannon has to choose between the U.S. best interests and Obama picks between America and Muslim interests.

I prefer someone who has America's interests at heart. No offense.
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Horowitz and Shapiro are Jews, but in no discernible way leftists.
Fact is they are two of my favorite conservatives.
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Fact is they are two of my favorite conservatives.
That is why I contend that with Bannon, it's not about left or right.
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