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Old October 5th, 2017, 08:51 AM   #11
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I disagree.

Republicans are far bigger hypocrites.

The problem is the Democrats talk about things that they believe in but I disagree with. The Republicans often talk about things I agree with but they obviously don't believe in.

A pox on both of their houses.
We can agree to disagree. I encourage all to step outside of the two party paradigm that has been foisted upon us. As long as we stay in that box we will never know the truth.
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The political Party, us against them agenda, Ain't work' n. There is hardly a dime's worth of difference between the two Parties. American citizens have long recognized that, and it's partially responsible for Trump's election. Money and power in Washington has replace true representation. Separation of power has become blurred. The Federal government has become too powerful. State, and individual rights are being incrementally taken away.
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Old October 5th, 2017, 01:35 PM   #13
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They're all hypocrites. Bill, John Edwards, and all pubs too. Time for everyone to put their big boys and girl glasses on.
The difference is, Bill and Edwards didn't try to pass laws outlawing or restricting the very behaviors they were participating in. Here we have a Family values and pro-life politician who is not only having an affair but sought to have his mistress get an abortion !! That is the very definition of hypocrisy,
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The more vociferous one generally is to a thing the more one is over compensating for their own guilt. See Jimmy Swaggart.
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The more vociferous one generally is to a thing the more one is over compensating for their own guilt. See Jimmy Swaggart.

No doubt. Like many conservatives obsession with gays ???
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"Let he who is without guilt throw the first stone." I'm a Catholic, don't really practice like I should, I'm against abortion but I paid for an ex-girlfriend's and I still regret it. She went off the pill on purpose, trying to get me to marry her. I offered to raise the kid on my own, I suggested giving it up for adoption, she would have none of that, so I agreed to pay for her abortion, afterword when I picked her up she said with a smug look on her face, "It was a boy."
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No doubt. Like many conservatives obsession with gays ???
Like anyone's obsession with gays. Who was that congressman up in, was it Idaho?
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That would explain your compulsion to comment on the subject
And yet again, you jump into another thread and deliver only an ad hominem comment against another poster without one iota of effort for a topical comment.


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The difference is, Bill and Edwards didn't try to pass laws outlawing or restricting the very behaviors they were participating in. Here we have a Family values and pro-life politician who is not only having an affair but sought to have his mistress get an abortion !! That is the very definition of hypocrisy,
Too often with the "religious right", they want to pick and choose which of the bible's rules they want to exalt ...
... based on their perception of guilt against it.

Attack the gays, because you're not gay and you feel no compunction to "sin" against that rule.
Lash out against abortion, because you're male and think you'll never be in that situation in the first place.

But things like divorce? THAT gets ignored because Christians have a higher propensity for divorce than atheists / agnostics.


One of these days I hope enough of them realize that the bible is a PERSONAL rule book for the people who want to claim they are Christian.
It's not something to impose upon others...

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"Let he who is without guilt throw the first stone." I'm a Catholic, don't really practice like I should, I'm against abortion but I paid for an ex-girlfriend's and I still regret it. She went off the pill on purpose, trying to get me to marry her. I offered to raise the kid on my own, I suggested giving it up for adoption, she would have none of that, so I agreed to pay for her abortion, afterword when I picked her up she said with a smug look on her face, "It was a boy."
You sir are exactly WHY I am pro-choice. Which is NOT to say I am pro-abortion, even though that is how most so called pro-lifers would portray me.

You found yourself in a completely untenable situation. Almost everyone in the country has an untenable situation or nightmare scenario where, no matter their personal beliefs, abortion becomes an option.

My belief is that it is NOT my place to dictate to you what does or does not constitute a nightmare scenario. I am NOT you. It is NOT my life. The decision whether or not to seek an abortion should be between you, your doctor and your conscience.

Don't beat yourself up too bad. It sounds like a hellish situation and you really didn't have much of a choice. What was the only other option ?? Spending the next two decades inextricably linked to woman you would sure come to hate ?? If you believe in God, then you have to trust that if he had REALLY wanted you to have that child, there would have been a viable option. If you truly believe, the whole situation may not have been about you. It may have been God testing her. That sneer, that comment, the whole trying to trap you into marriage, may be the very thing that condemns her to hell !!
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