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Old October 14th, 2017, 06:40 AM   #1
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Stupid Trump Tricks

STUPID TRUMP TRICKS

This week Donald Trump failed to stand at attention during a military ceremony. He just sat around talking and telling jokes. My question for today is: Do we need to dwell on this?

Stop jumping up and down and cheering.

Policy-wise, this has been a particularly dreadful week in Washington. The president trashed the health care act and washed his hands of the nuclear agreement with Iran.

Attention must be paid. But there has also been a bumper crop of Ridiculous Events. And it seems only fair to mention a few of them, given that the president himself doesn’t have enough stable thoughts for a serious policy debate. He never did understand the Affordable Care Act. During one top-level discussion with his foreign affairs advisers, he reportedly compared the United States’ strategy in Afghanistan to the remodeling of the 21 Club in Manhattan.

Good story, huh? I’m afraid I’m sinking to his level.

Let’s get back to the flag. Trump was doing an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News, sitting in a hangar used by the Pennsylvania Air National Guard. A bugle began playing “Retreat,” music marking the end of the day and, often, the lowering of the flag. The military tradition is that when you hear it, you rise and put your hand on your heart. Or salute. Trump kept sitting and talking. He joked to the crowd that the bugle was in honor of Hannity’s ratings.

Well, maybe he had no idea what “Retreat” was. And to be fair, only people outdoors are really obliged to stand for the ceremony. But if you’re a president who went to a military high school, sitting in a military facility, near people who suddenly get to their feet, there ought to be an inkling that some attention should be paid.

Just in case the fire fighters in California don't have their radios with them, perhaps Trump could put a banner behind Air Force One...

Trump was in Pennsylvania, by the way, to promote his tax plan. In recent days he was also in North Carolina for a dinner with the Republican National Committee. He played golf with Lindsey Graham and met with the Stanley Cup champion Pittsburgh Penguins. Do we have any right to ask why he hasn’t dropped into California to check up on the wildfire disaster? He couldn’t do anything to help, and most Californians wouldn’t vote for him if he showed up wielding a hose and rescuing trapped bunnies. But it would still be a nice, leaderlike gesture.

Have you noticed how much of our discussion about the president is just a list of symbolic failures and punch lines? Are we just aping his fecklessness? Nah.

The bugle incident is definitely fair game, since Trump’s been on a rampage against black National Football League players who kneel during the national anthem. Which is worse, people? Athletes staging a somber protest about racial injustice or a president sitting around joshing during a ceremony about the flag?

Trump’s whole crusade against the football demonstrators has been mean, a play to that fabled base of his. He’s even been cruel to Mike Pence, who was directed to walk out of an Indianapolis Colts game when some players knelt down. And Pence really wanted to see that game! They were retiring Peyton Manning’s jersey!

It seems only fair to take the occasional low road against a president who loves nothing more than getting up in the morning to launch a meaningless-divisive-symbolic crusade. For instance, we’re going to be spending the next 10 weeks listening to Trump talk about bringing back Christmas. It’s hard to believe that in his New York real estate days he didn’t occasionally say “Happy holidays!” But in this presidency, it’s as bad as, um, ignoring the flag.

“We’re saying Merry Christmas again,” he told the Values Voters Summit on Friday. It’s important, he explained, because it’s something that “people don’t talk about anymore.”

We are now going to have two and a half months to point out that in a land surrounded by Christmas sales, carpeted by Christmas trees and bathed in the broadcast of Christmas carols, the last thing we really need to worry about is the failure to mention the word “Christmas.”

If we were going to cruise down the highway of political virtue this week, talking policy and watching the climate change, we’d discuss health care. Trump is deliberately undermining a program that many working and middle-class Americans rely on to pay for their insurance coverage. Among many deeply depressing changes, he’s axing government payments to insurance companies that help subsidize policies for the poor.

On Friday the president talked about it very briefly with reporters. But he managed to explain, in a nanosecond, why he hates the subsidies: “Take a look at who those insurance companies support and I guarantee you one thing. It’s not Donald Trump.”

Low road beckons. Really, it’s waving its hand in desperation. So let’s just mention that at the signing ceremony held to celebrate one of the new health-care-wrecking changes, Trump forgot to sign. Pence had to drag him back to the little bitty table to write down his name.

There are good reasons the most influential commentators on this administration are the late-night comedians.

By Gail Collins OCT. 13, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/o...?mi_u=68421646
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Old October 14th, 2017, 10:57 AM   #2
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...Among many deeply depressing changes, he’s axing government payments to insurance companies that help subsidize policies for the poor.

On Friday the president talked about it very briefly with reporters. But he managed to explain, in a nanosecond, why he hates the subsidies: “Take a look at who those insurance companies support and I guarantee you one thing. It’s not Donald Trump.
Just some more jizz DJT expects everyone to swallow. And his supporters will swallow it. And smile for some more.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 11:05 AM   #3
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Just some more jizz DJT expects everyone to swallow. And his supporters will swallow it. And smile for some more.
I voted for the man as the lesser of two evils, AND as I bad as I despise Jonathan Karl over at CBS, I would enjoy him grilling Trump over being two faced regarding showing due respect to the country, the flag, and its military.
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The writer of the OP article is ignorant and suffering from TDS.

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All personnel driving on the installation must stop. Servicemembers and government civilian personnel will turn off their vehicles and if safe to do so, exit their vehicles and render the appropriate honors. Individuals outside of buildings will render the appropriate honors to the flag during the Retreat ceremony.
They were INSIDE an aircraft hanger at the Harrisburg Air National Guard Base in Pennsylvania. TDS sufferers will swallow hook, line, and sinker and believe any nonsense rants written by against Trump. Not one person inside were obligated to do anything concerning the ceremony, and even if outside, Trump does not salute the flag. Only individuals in uniform salute the flag. Just because one does not like Trump means he has an obligation to when he does not. But, but, but.....it's Trump. Stupid wench pretending to be a "journalist".
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Old October 14th, 2017, 02:35 PM   #5
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Marcus Livius - please re-read the portion of the article YOU quoted. You are totally misunderstanding it and the directions it gives.

There is no question, Trump, as Commander-in-Chief, did not do the correct thing. Now, I don't think it's that big a deal - but I'm sure not going to let Trumpanzee apologists say that he wasn't required to do anything. That is simply not true.
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Marcus Livius - please re-read the portion of the article YOU quoted. You are totally misunderstanding it and the directions it gives.

There is no question, Trump, as Commander-in-Chief, did not do the correct thing. Now, I don't think it's that big a deal - but I'm sure not going to let Trumpanzee apologists say that he wasn't required to do anything. That is simply not true.
I did not quote your article. I quoted base regulations. I am very well aware of US Military protocols.

I don't like Trump, but what I hate more is deranged idiots that make shit up and write them as facts. She clearly have no clue about the military and the fact checkers are just as deranged and clueless.

If Trump had indeed saluted the flag, other idiots will be screaming that that honor is reserved for the uniformed personnel.
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I did not quote your article. I quoted base regulations. I am very well aware of US Military protocols.

I don't like Trump, but what I hate more is deranged idiots that make shit up and write them as facts. She clearly have no clue about the military and the fact checkers are just as deranged and clueless.

If Trump had indeed saluted the flag, other idiots will be screaming that that honor is reserved for the uniformed personnel.
No one said that he should have "saluted the flag", moron.

The issue is the hypocrisy of the TrumpsterFire not honoring the flag or the Retreat ceremony in the slightest, while at the same time carrying on about how he thinks that it is disrespecting the flag when athletes kneel during the Anthem as a silent peaceful protest against the rampant racial injustices in America and specifically the many cases of unjustifiable murders of black men by racist cops.
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No one said that he should have "saluted the flag", moron.

The issue is the hypocrisy of the TrumpsterFire not honoring the flag or the Retreat ceremony in the slightest, while at the same time carrying on about how he thinks that it is disrespecting the flag when athletes kneel during the Anthem as a silent peaceful protest against the rampant racial injustices in America and specifically the many cases of unjustifiable murders of black men by racist cops.
Another name-calling tough guy with a serious lack of reading comprehension, huh?

"Salute" was in the OP.

Again, as I already laid out very carefully, Trump was not in a position to honor the flag

Again, even left-leaning Snopes couldn't spin it, but the retarded fake news media is and TDS sufferers are swallowing it because anything bad that is written or reported on about Trump must be bad because it is Trump.

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However, Donald Trump does not appear to have violated protocol during the ceremony. We spoke to an Army National Guard spokesperson, who told us that there is “no expectation” relating to decorum for civilians or armed services members who are indoors during the Retreat ceremony, in any branch of the military. The President was in an airport hangar during the interview.
FACT CHECK: Did Donald Trump Joke Around, Fail to Salute the Flag During a Military Ceremony?

Trump was also accused of not putting his hand over his heart during the National Anthem by fake news during the 2016 and that was also debunked. Falling over and over for fake news is a serious affliction caused by TDS.

Donald Trump Doesn't Salute the Flag?
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Why do the RWNJs like Snopes when it seems to agree with them but not other times?
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Why do the RWNJs like Snopes when it seems to agree with them but not other times?
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

I quoted the regulation from a military base manual, but it apparently wasn't comprehensible for some, so I figured that even the most seriously afflicted among the TDS sufferers should believe Snopes since they write in Leftyspeak.
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