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Old October 16th, 2017, 10:55 PM   #41
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That is a rate of growth, not a GDP total.
Let me repeat what I replied to, 'mmkay?
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And those XOs repeals are why we have seen the GDP growth rate almost Double this year..
So yeah. I get that it's the GDP growth rate.
Cause that's what I was replying to...


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edit. A rate of the growth of the GDP, but not the actual GDP. In other words its how much the GDP has grown at a given time. One could say that your car will only go 10 mph. A mechanic works on it now it will go 20 mph. Percentage wise, that sounds like a real good improvement. In reality, it still sucks.
So when people talk about economic performance, do they talk primarily about GDP rate or just the GDP?
Like, for example, does Trump boast about a single GDP number? Or the GDP growth rate?
Hint: GDP rate
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Let me repeat what I replied to, 'mmkay?So yeah. I get that it's the GDP growth rate.
Cause that's what I was replying to...



So when people talk about economic performance, do they talk primarily about GDP rate or just the GDP?
Like, for example, does Trump boast about a single GDP number? Or the GDP growth rate?
Hint: GDP rate
Its a matter of whatever sounds best. The same thing you are trumpeting. I am just glad I could clarify what it is we our discussing. But, Obama was around 1.8%, Clinton was 3.8 and Reagan was 3.6. I might be a bit off, but i dont feel like looking it up..again
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Old October 17th, 2017, 08:58 AM   #43
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Its a matter of whatever sounds best. The same thing you are trumpeting.
Without surprise, you ignored my questions...
So when people talk about economic performance, do they talk primarily about GDP rate or just the GDP?
Like, for example, does Trump boast about a single GDP number? Or the GDP growth rate?


Providing the GDP number is meaningless unless you have a previous point of reference. And worse, able to do the math in your head to understand how much it increased.
For generic purposes talking about IMPROVEMENT, the GDP number isn't that valuable.
Which again gets me back to how often do people, like in the news talking about economic performance, actually give the GDP number and not the growth rate.

If you look at the Bureau of Economic Analysis, they report the GDP numbers.
Growth rate is what you find repeatedly throughout their discussion.
You have to hunt to even try to find actual current GDP number in that page.
https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/nat...ewsrelease.htm


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I am just glad I could clarify what it is we our discussing.
But ya didn't, Blanche.
You could add to the thread the atomic weight of Cesium and the mass of the moon. Such clarification is not needed.
A question nobody asked.

The reality is another poster was talking about GDP growth rate.
I responded on the same topic.
You interjected to whine that GDP growth rate was not GDP. A confusion nobody actually held.


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But, Obama was around 1.8%, Clinton was 3.8 and Reagan was 3.6. I might be a bit off, but i dont feel like looking it up..again
Interesting how you don't include Bush Jr's in that...
Bush Jr left the economy in a tail-spin and Obama had to clean up. A fact right-wingers tend to overlook.
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It's observation not judgement. Your post on the other hand is first-order judgement.
She accused him of joining a cult because she disagrees with him, fairly judgmental. Where as a fellow Christian, I pointed out the plank in her eye!
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Without surprise, you ignored my questions...
So when people talk about economic performance, do they talk primarily about GDP rate or just the GDP?
Like, for example, does Trump boast about a single GDP number? Or the GDP growth rate?


Providing the GDP number is meaningless unless you have a previous point of reference. And worse, able to do the math in your head to understand how much it increased.
For generic purposes talking about IMPROVEMENT, the GDP number isn't that valuable.
Which again gets me back to how often do people, like in the news talking about economic performance, actually give the GDP number and not the growth rate.

If you look at the Bureau of Economic Analysis, they report the GDP numbers.
Growth rate is what you find repeatedly throughout their discussion.
You have to hunt to even try to find actual current GDP number in that page.
https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/nat...ewsrelease.htm



But ya didn't, Blanche.
You could add to the thread the atomic weight of Cesium and the mass of the moon. Such clarification is not needed.
A question nobody asked.

The reality is another poster was talking about GDP growth rate.
I responded on the same topic.
You interjected to whine that GDP growth rate was not GDP. A confusion nobody actually held.



Interesting how you don't include Bush Jr's in that...
Bush Jr left the economy in a tail-spin and Obama had to clean up. A fact right-wingers tend to overlook.
You like to talk a lot to hear yourself talk.


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Old October 17th, 2017, 01:27 PM   #46
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Weren't Dotard's travel bans by EO?

CNN email:

A federal judge in Hawaii has blocked President Donald Trump's revised travel ban one day before it was set to take effect.

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Judge Derrick Watson said the travel ban -- Trump's third version of the policy -- "plainly discriminates based on nationality."
Is this strike three for him on this subject?
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Old October 18th, 2017, 08:35 AM   #47
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You like to talk a lot to hear yourself talk.
Because I'm speaking to people incapable of listening?
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I realize some people will have deaf ears.
There are a lot of others out there who don't...


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What the heck do you think you just did?

You were complaining that I was talking about GDP Growth rate instead of GDP...
... and then you post a graph that shows GDP Growth as a percentage.
WHICH IS STILL THE GROWTH RATE.

As I mentioned, Obama inherited a mess. The reason the economy isn't as good as it used to be is because of continual transfer of income / profits to the rich. A dollar in the hands of a rich man is not as good for the economy as a dollar in the hands of the average worker. The rich man hoards it while the average worker spends it, with the latter being better for the economy.
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Do you remember the moaning and wailing and gnashing of teeth the RW underwent about all the EOs Obama issued?

Well lookie, lookie:



Trump is the best for the past 50 years.

From the Axios morning report.
Obama issued 275 EOs, Trump still has 226 to go to get rid of Obama's Legacy.
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Because I'm speaking to people incapable of listening?
< end sarcasm >

I realize some people will have deaf ears.
There are a lot of others out there who don't...



What the heck do you think you just did?

You were complaining that I was talking about GDP Growth rate instead of GDP...
... and then you post a graph that shows GDP Growth as a percentage.
WHICH IS STILL THE GROWTH RATE.

As I mentioned, Obama inherited a mess. The reason the economy isn't as good as it used to be is because of continual transfer of income / profits to the rich. A dollar in the hands of a rich man is not as good for the economy as a dollar in the hands of the average worker. The rich man hoards it while the average worker spends it, with the latter being better for the economy.
No, I posted the true GDP average of the Presidents. Obama is at 1.8%.
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Old October 18th, 2017, 12:33 PM   #50
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Obama issued 275 EOs, Trump still has 226 to go to get rid of Obama's Legacy.
Which has nothing to do with this thread. But carry on.

Defend the Dotard in all things. Did you enjoy his call to the widow?
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