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Old October 30th, 2017, 08:32 PM   #31
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You are seriously going to resort to playing a word game like that? Thats pretty lame to be honest. Its like chastising a person for saying Canadian Geese when its actually Canada Geese. I could start saying the jack ass party if you would prefer though
Just call them leftists. It fits all of their deplorable ideologies be it closet socialists masquerading as libertarians, democratic socalists pretending to be democrats for the primaries or neocons posing as democrats for the primaries. Old timer KKK members mentoring subterranean lizard beings. No matter. They are all leftists. Just like Lenin and pot.

Call a spade a spade.

A communist by any other name...
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Old October 30th, 2017, 08:35 PM   #32
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Actually, a regressive Ivy League law prof has been pushing that line. LOL

Harvard Law Professor: Hillary Clinton Can Still Be President | Fox News Insider
I'll grant you that Hillary "still" being president is beyond unlikely, about as likely as say, an Ark. Or a worldwide flood. Yet, I know people who believe in both.

Lots of opinions out there.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 08:35 PM   #33
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Just call them leftists. It fits all of their deplorable ideologies be it closet socialists masquerading as libertarians, democratic socalists pretending to be democrats for the primaries or neocons posing as democrats for the primaries. Old timer KKK members mentoring subterranean lizard beings. No matter. They are all leftists. Just like Lenin and pot.

Call a spade a spade.

A communist by any other name...

We may have to take a knee over one of those remarks.
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Old October 30th, 2017, 09:28 PM   #34
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If DJT had been guilty of an impeachable offense and Pence became president, enforcing the laws of the nation, laws created through due process, is what would have been done.

And now, that's a problem???
i was sloppy. of course if he has actually done anything illegal yes, throw him to the wolves. on the other hand, and the situation i had intended to convey, imagine he has done something dodgy, something that everyone else does (like use a private email) and that would under normal circumstances be ignored. but because he is trump and the dems hate trump this trivial non issue is turned into a scandal and he has no choice.

the repubs tried this to hillary all the time. bengazi, emails, things that were non issues, but the repubs imagination and weasel lawyers turned them into big issues. they didnt get hillary, but the dems might try the same stunts, and if they get it to stick, you get president pence.

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I would be uncomfortable with a Pres. Pence, but I'm not comfortable with shoot from the hip democracy either.
unfortunately the majority of the electoral college were. i dont think its time to panic, a nutter president is still constrained by congress, and the senate, and the courts. and i suspect trump wants to be remembered as a legend, not as the guy who started a nuclear war.
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the dims wet dream is that pence is embarrassed and he resigns too. Then ryan becomes potus as pence did not nominate a vpotus candidate. Then ryan nominates hillary as vpotus, she is approved by the senate, ryan resigns, and voila! President hillary.
yes, i saw that post, it made me smile but its clearly satirical.

trump is not nearly as good as his fans say he is, thats obvious. likewise, he isnt as bad as his detractors say he is. the courts and the senate have demonstrated they are willing and able to block his stupidity at times. i doubt he actually wants to start a nuclear war, he wants to be remembered as the president who built things, not the mass murderer. the main problem is there is a president who isnt going to keep an eye on congress, so far right lawmakers might have an opportunity to get their legislation through. but thats a problem with the Rs, not with trump.
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i was sloppy. of course if he has actually done anything illegal yes, throw him to the wolves. on the other hand, and the situation i had intended to convey, imagine he has done something dodgy, something that everyone else does (like use a private email) and that would under normal circumstances be ignored. but because he is trump and the dems hate trump this trivial non issue is turned into a scandal and he has no choice.

the repubs tried this to hillary all the time. bengazi, emails, things that were non issues, but the repubs imagination and weasel lawyers turned them into big issues. they didnt get hillary, but the dems might try the same stunts, and if they get it to stick, you get president pence.
I get that, and that sucks. My point: Disobeying law when it sucks is direct democracy.

Everything you listed above was foisted upon the American people. Great Jupiter, NINE Benghazi "hearings"?


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unfortunately the majority of the electoral college were. i dont think its time to panic, a nutter president is still constrained by congress, and the senate, and the courts. and i suspect trump wants to be remembered as a legend, not as the guy who started a nuclear war.
Agreed, but it's nutter to even be having this conversation. Very, very nutter. Damn.
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I get that, and that sucks. My point: Disobeying law when it sucks is direct democracy.

Everything you listed above was foisted upon the American people. Great Jupiter, NINE Benghazi "hearings"?
and the great email saga that was nothing. it was crazy at the time, it was obvious political moves by the Rs, in an attempt to hurt hillary even if it was all crap. and now its exactly the same. and, as bubbajones eloquently said on this thread, you really dont want to succeed.

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Agreed, but it's nutter to even be having this conversation. Very, very nutter. Damn.
when we live in a world where the phrase "president trump" isnt a punchline, its a very strange world. we will always be a bit puzzled as to how it happened, and somewhat amused, but we will move on.
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I thoroughly and totally disagree with almost every stance Pence has taken on every political issue.

However, I do not doubt his honesty ... which, as much as I loathe his politics, is more important to me.

I also loathe Donald Trump's politics - which are mostly based on lies and deceit and initiated from a place of petty vengeance for some perceived personal wrong done him - but he is also a dishonest and lying consummate conman.

I'd rather have Pence.
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I thoroughly and totally disagree with almost every stance Pence has taken on every political issue.

However, I do not doubt his honesty ... which, as much as I loathe his politics, is more important to me.

I also loathe Donald Trump's politics - which are mostly based on lies and deceit and initiated from a place of petty vengeance for some perceived personal wrong done him - but he is also a dishonest and lying consummate conman.

I'd rather have Pence.
Hopefully, America will have a President Pence, right after two terms of President Trump. That will totally transform the USSC and our culture back to what the United States of America is supposed to look like.
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