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Old October 31st, 2017, 03:24 PM   #61
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So now you're condoning murder. Have some vodka and an onion sandwich and keep dreaming comrade.
It is not murder! It was not murder to secure the greatness of the glory of the Red October! This is the west Red October now! The removal or Trump and his family. This should be a time of joy comrade
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The Dims wet dream is that Pence is embarrassed and he resigns too. Then Ryan becomes POTUS as Pence did not nominate a VPOTUS candidate. Then Ryan nominates Hillary as VPOTUS, she is approved by the Senate, Ryan resigns, and voila! President Hillary.
well, i was wrong. i thought this post was satire, turns out its true, democrats actually are this delusional:

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Well, if the timing goes right and Pence is also caught up in criminality, the Dems will win the House in 2018 and the Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, would have to take over.
ok, camelots post isnt exactly the same, but its got the identical disconnect from reality.

if this is intended as an actual answer to the question, you actually do need professional help. no really, you do. medication will probably be necessary. if you actually think this is a genuine understanding of reality, if you actually think this is going to happen, IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK THIS IS AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, you are actually mentally ill.
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I thoroughly and totally disagree with almost every stance Pence has taken on every political issue.

However, I do not doubt his honesty ... which, as much as I loathe his politics, is more important to me.

I also loathe Donald Trump's politics - which are mostly based on lies and deceit and initiated from a place of petty vengeance for some perceived personal wrong done him - but he is also a dishonest and lying consummate conman.

I'd rather have Pence.
thank you for answering the question.

i think pence would be a disaster, more so than trump. i agree trump is a dishonest con artist who is only there because he lied, but trump doesnt have the experience to actually implement his loony ideas, so they get blocked by the court or the senate. pence would have the experience to get around that. and he actually has an agenda, give him the power of the white house and his agenda will be made real.
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Hopefully, America will have a President Pence, right after two terms of President Trump. That will totally transform the USSC and our culture back to what the United States of America is supposed to look like.
slightly off topic, what is the success rate for someone becoming president after being vice president? does that actually happen often?
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slightly off topic, what is the success rate for someone becoming president after being vice president? does that actually happen often?
In my life time, 1960, only once has a sitting VP taken the next election. That was George H.W. Bush who followed Reagan.

From what I can find 14 VP's have become president.

8 of them the result of the death of their president.

Only 4 of those were able to be elected to a full term. NONE of them were elected to a second.

Only 4 have gone from directly VP to elected as president with OUT the death of his predecessor. GHW Bush being the most recent, Martin Van Buren all the way back in 1837 was the next nearest one. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson being the other two.

Nixon was VP until 1961 and then was elected president in 1968. The only man to serve as VP but NOT go straight from VP to Pres.

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Hopefully, America will have a President Pence, right after two terms of President Trump. That will totally transform the USSC and our culture back to what the United States of America is supposed to look like.
Define what America is "supposed to look like" ??? How far backwards do you want to go ?? Are you going to strip women and negroes of the right to vote ?? What about implementation of the bill of rights at the state level ?? Going to reverse all those rulings that based on the 14th ?? Going to send all those queers and anyone that doesn't believe in Jesus running for the shadows ?? Going to strip their most fundamental rights because YOUR interpretation of YOUR religion is more important than the constitution ??

Seriously give us a few examples of exactly what direction you'd like to see America take ??
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In my life time, 1960, only once has a sitting VP taken the next election. That was George H.W. Bush who followed Reagan.

From what I can find 14 VP's have become president.

8 of them the result of the death of their president.

Only 4 of those were able to be elected to a full term. NONE of them were elected to a second.

Only 4 have gone from directly VP to elected as president with OUT the death of his predecessor. GHW Bush being the most recent, Martin Van Buren all the way back in 1837 was the next nearest one. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson being the other two.

Nixon was VP until 1961 and then was elected president in 1968. The only man to serve as VP but NOT go straight from VP to Pres.

Thanks for asking a question that made me go learn something to find an answer.
thank you for once again giving a direct answer. and for doing a lot more work than i expected. and for the information, it was what i had expected, that being VP isnt a common stepping stone to the presidency. this should bring some solace to the forums democrats.
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In my life time, 1960, only once has a sitting VP taken the next election. That was George H.W. Bush who followed Reagan.

From what I can find 14 VP's have become president.

8 of them the result of the death of their president.

Only 4 of those were able to be elected to a full term. NONE of them were elected to a second.

Only 4 have gone from directly VP to elected as president with OUT the death of his predecessor. GHW Bush being the most recent, Martin Van Buren all the way back in 1837 was the next nearest one. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson being the other two.

Nixon was VP until 1961 and then was elected president in 1968. The only man to serve as VP but NOT go straight from VP to Pres.

Thanks for asking a question that made me go learn something to find an answer.


As the conservative "party" continues to rebrand and the "liberal" party regresses i dont know if we will see the 180 degree swing that one would expect. I dont think that pence would ever stand a chance on his own. I think half the reason trump picked him was as a shield. I do think that if Trump runs again following him will be a real libertarian. When you talk to people 50 and.under besides those who are some how caught up in this social justice crap that is how they lean even if they dont really know it. Even listen to some of the extreem authoritarian leftists on here and they are starting to lean towards states rights.
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