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Old November 24th, 2017, 07:41 AM   #1
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The coming death of the MMGW Movement

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Old November 24th, 2017, 10:28 AM   #2
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Another link TNV doesn't understand.

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Every 11 years or so, sunspots fade away, bringing a period of relative calm.
Anyone think he can plot an ll year cycle on the earth's average temp from 1900 to the present. We should see 10+ cycles. But we don't.

And nowhere on the link does it say the drop in sun spots causes a drop in surface temps.

NASA does state that it might have some minor effect on rainfall distribution. But says nothing about average temperature in a study on the solar sunspot cycle's effect on climate.

https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/rind_03/
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NO credible climatologist thinks man's activity is the SOLE cause of global climate change. *shrug*
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NO credible climatologist thinks man's activity is the SOLE cause of global climate change. *shrug*
THANK YOU THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING IN THIS FORUM SINCE 2012.

Man made GHGs has only contributed about 0.03 degrees to the climate that has warmed post Little Ice Age. The rest has been an increase in solar activity since late 1800s..
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THANK YOU THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING IN THIS FORUM SINCE 2012.

Man made GHGs has only contributed about 0.03 degrees to the climate that has warmed post Little Ice Age. The rest has been an increase in solar activity since late 1800s..
You are completely wrong. And that is not at all what HW was saying.
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You are completely wrong. And that is not at all what HW was saying.
Yes it is what HW said MAN ISN'T THE SOLE CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING.


Which is EXACTLY what I have said. the only difference I put a quantification of man's effect.


But you don't bother reading what people say you just pick and choose posters and harass them.


Solar activity peaked ~1996-1998, the warming plateaued when the sun entered Solar Cycle 23, and 24 warming stalled there have been periods of high solar activity since then 2005 and 2016...

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THANK YOU THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING IN THIS FORUM SINCE 2012.

Man made GHGs has only contributed about 0.03 degrees to the climate that has warmed post Little Ice Age. The rest has been an increase in solar activity since late 1800s..
What you have been saying forever, including this post, amounts to a lot of anti-science bogus bullshit lifted straight out of some fossil fuel industry propaganda outlet.

In the real world....

Causes of Global Warming
Human influence is rapidly changing the climate.

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The temperature of the earth is rising at nearly twice the rate it was 50 years ago. This rapid rate and pattern of warming, scientists have concluded, cannot be explained by natural cycles alone. The only way to explain the pattern is to include the effect of greenhouse gases (GHGs) emitted by humans. To come to a conclusion on climate change, the United Nations formed a group of scientists called the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, or IPCC. The IPCC meets every few years to review the latest scientific findings and write a report summarizing all that is known about global warming. Each report represents a consensus, or agreement, among hundreds of leading scientists.

One of the first things the IPCC learned is that there are several greenhouse gases responsible for warming, and humans emit them in a variety of ways. Most come from the combustion of fossil fuels in cars, factories and electricity production. The gas responsible for the most warming is carbon dioxide, also called CO2. Other contributors include methane released from landfills and agriculture (especially from the digestive systems of grazing animals), nitrous oxide from fertilizers, gases used for refrigeration and industrial processes, and the loss of forests that would otherwise store CO2.

Different greenhouse gases have very different heat-trapping abilities. Some of them can even trap more heat than CO2. A molecule of methane produces more than 20 times the warming of a molecule of CO2. Nitrous oxide is 300 times more powerful than CO2. Other gases, such as chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs (which have been banned in much of the world because they also degrade the ozone layer), have heat-trapping potential thousands of times greater than CO2. But because their concentrations are much lower than CO2, none of these gases adds as much warmth to the atmosphere as CO2 does. In order to understand the effects of all the gases together, scientists tend to talk about all greenhouse gases in terms of the equivalent amount of CO2. Since 1990, yearly emissions have gone up by about 6 billion metric tons of "carbon dioxide equivalent" worldwide, more than a 20 percent increase.
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THANK YOU THAT IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING IN THIS FORUM SINCE 2012.

Man made GHGs has only contributed about 0.03 degrees to the climate that has warmed post Little Ice Age. The rest has been an increase in solar activity since late 1800s..
No shit, so have I.
The debate is over what DEGREE OF INFLUENCE man's activities have and what can be done to negate that influence.
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No shit, so have I.
The debate is over what DEGREE OF INFLUENCE man's activities have and what can be done to negate that influence.
Get him to explain where he got his 0.03 degrees from. It's very funny.
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It's actually widely accepted by the general public, the overwhelming majority of scientists, insurance companies, the military, and the other industrialized nations, all of whom are taking steps to counter it.

Once the criminal cartel that currently controls our government has been shown the door, so will the US, in a very big way.
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