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Old November 29th, 2017, 05:47 PM   #41
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The OP article states the Fred Trump made up the Swedish ancestry in order to sell apartments to Jews. Besides for the part that the apartments were rental units, how could they possibly know the reason?

Many people of Germanic heritage hid there Germanic roots or modified their names during and after the world wars. Even the entire British Royal family changed their name and things such as Hamburgers and Frankfurters became Freedom Burgers and hotdogs.

Swedes are a Germanic ethnic group. During the time of the Romans, one of the most powerful tribes in Germany were the Suiones which were the forerunners of modern day Swedes. If you don't believe me, go ahead and read Germania written by Roman historian Tacitus.

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Old November 29th, 2017, 06:17 PM   #42
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The OP article states the Fred Trump made up the Swedish ancestry in order to sell apartments to Jews. Besides for the part that the apartments were rental units, how could they possibly know the reason?

Many people of Germanic heritage hid there Germanic roots or modified their names during the world wars. Even the entire British Royal family changed their name and things such as Hamburgers and Frankfurters became Freedom Burgers and hotdogs.

Swedes are a Germanic ethnic group. During the time of the Romans, one of the most powerful tribes in Germany were the Suiones which were the forerunners of modern days Swedes. Don't believe me, read Germania written by Roman historian Tacitus.
Yes I read it. It backed it up with nothing. Does Trump have any Swedish heritage? Any proof of a lack of it?

People were not hiding german heritage after ww2. Thats a load of crap.
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Yes I read it. It backed it up with nothing. Does Trump have any Swedish heritage? Any proof of a lack of it?

People were not hiding german heritage after ww2. Thats a load of crap.
Well, the Trumps did have an extra beef with Germany. Grandpa Frederick Trump immigrated to the US when he was 18 to join his older sister. When he later moved back to Germany because his wife grew homesick for their hometown Kallstadt, he was accused by the local authorities of having moved to America to avoid the draft and was expelled from Germany. To my knowledge, none of Trumps have ever visited their ancestral town. Perhaps a grudge?
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Well, the Trumps did have an extra beef with Germany. Grandpa Frederick Trump immigrated to the US when he was 18 to join his older sister. When he later moved back to Germany because his wife grew homesick for their hometown Kallstadt, he was accused by the local authorities of having moved to America to avoid the draft and was expelled from Germany. To my knowledge, none of Trumps have ever visited their ancestral town. Perhaps a grudge?
Again for the third time, my question is:

Is there any proof that Trump does not have any Swedish heritage?
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Yes I read it. It backed it up with nothing. Does Trump have any Swedish heritage? Any proof of a lack of it?

People were not hiding german heritage after ww2. Thats a load of crap.
Do you have any proof that people weren't hiding German heritage after WWII?

The problem DJ's dad had? Selling real estate to Jews. They just might have reacted coldly or negatively to people of German lineage.
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Old November 29th, 2017, 08:02 PM   #46
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What I am saying is that Tucker Carlson, spawn of Bannon and the ilk saying Snopes isn't reliable makes me like it more.

Of course they don't like it because the right puts out way more fake news than the left so they use that as saying it isn't reliable.

It's like that other story claiming some different fact checking site was biased because they called more right wingers liars. Well, right wingers lie more. It's that simple.
Yeah well they can all be lying. Left-wingers will believe Left-wing media more because it supports their beliefs; Right-wingers will believe Right-wing media more because it supports their beliefs. I see BS spewing from both sides in more or less equal amounts.

What I'm getting at is that everyone ought to be skeptical of all sources, not just the ones they don't like. My 10th grade PE teacher said the one thing I remember more vividly than anything else from high school: "trust no one."
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Yeah well they can all be lying. Left-wingers will believe Left-wing media more because it supports their beliefs; Right-wingers will believe Right-wing media more because it supports their beliefs. I see BS spewing from both sides in more or less equal amounts.

What I'm getting at is that everyone ought to be skeptical of all sources, not just the ones they don't like. My 10th grade PE teacher said the one thing I remember more vividly than anything else from high school: "trust no one."
Then why did you give such a one-sided list of sources?
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The two paragraph (article) simply states he falsely claimed Swedish heritage. Then it give absolutely no evidence of a false claim of Swedish heritage what so ever. Just stating his great grandfather came from Germany does not negate some Swedish lineage at all.

You guys on the Left latch onto any slight of Trump with absolutely no proof what so ever. One can find any kind of crap on the internet you want. Just because you want it to be true does not make it so. You need to hold this stuff up to the light a little bit before you swallow it hook line and sinker.
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Then why did you give such a one-sided list of sources?
Well let's examine what actually happened: Ahgho Boogheroff posted something from Snopes in post # 21, then responds to something I wrote as though I am supposed to just accept it without question & making the incorrect assumption that I failed to keep up by saying "[t]hat fraudulent propaganda meme was debunked in post #21. Try to keep up." What I was doing was pointing out that I don't accept it at all & showing that the assumption was incorrect. I determined on my own that Snopes is unreliable; those links are there to show various examples of assessments about Snopes that agree with my position.

If I'm expected to accept sources posted by others without question, can I expect the same from them to accept the sources I post without question? I think there's no way, because the two opposing sides of sources contradict or conflict with each other. If person A has to accept person B's sources, but person B doesn't have to accept person A's sources, that's nothing more than a double standard. If there's a double standard being pushed I'm simply going to call it out for what it is.
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