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Old January 29th, 2018, 03:15 AM   #21
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Obama got a minority of the White Evangelical vote. Clinton got an even smaller minority.

The real question is how could anyone professing to be a Christian vote for Trump?

The white evangelicals rejected Bill Clinton over his moral failings but Trump falls far short of even that standard.
Because we understand forgiveness something you do not understand or care about. Why would you even post in this thread we know where you stand.
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Old January 29th, 2018, 03:24 AM   #22
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Wake the f*#@ up. Many stayed home, or Trump would have also won the popular vote in spite of California' over 4-million win for Hillary.

Those who did had a simple enough reason. Another 4-years of what Obama had done was unacceptable. They found that more morally disturbing than sexual peccadilloes.
So they found that providing medical care to poor children was beyond the pale?

What did Obama do that ranked worse than Trump?
Besides the skin color thing....
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Old January 29th, 2018, 03:48 AM   #23
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So they found that providing medical care to poor children was beyond the pale?

What did Obama do that ranked worse than Trump?
Besides the skin color thing....
One can be an ass in more than one way, and one can be offended by either.
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Old January 29th, 2018, 08:36 AM   #24
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What does the amount of melanin that they were born w/ have anything to do w/ anything?


You postmodernists are absolutely disgusting.
"White evangelicals" are a distinct group, with distinct characteristics, and to deny this is to live in a world of alternative facts.

Very little has been said about the content of the OP article, I'm guessing because few read it. It's spot on, to wit:
For eight years they watched you relentlessly demonize a black President; a man faithfully married for 26 years; a doting father and husband without a hint of moral scandal or the slightest whiff of infidelity.

They watched you deny his personal faith convictions, argue his birthplace, and assail his character—all without cause or evidence. They saw you brandish Scriptures to malign him and use the laziest of racial stereotypes in criticizing him.

And through it all, White Evangelicals—you never once suggested that God placed him where he was,
you never publicly offered prayers for him and his family,
you never welcomed him to your Christian Universities,
you never gave him the benefit of the doubt in any instance,
you never spoke of offering him forgiveness or mercy,
your evangelists never publicly thanked God for his leadership,
your pastors never took to the pulpit to offer solidarity with him,
you never made any effort to affirm his humanity or show the love of Jesus to him in any quantifiable measure.

You violently opposed him at every single turn—without offering a single ounce of the grace you claim as the heart of your faith tradition. You jettisoned Jesus as you dispensed damnation on him.
That's inarguable. White evangelicals did exactly that, and still do. Then, there's the white evangelical position on DJ:
And yet today, you openly give a “mulligan” to a white Republican man so riddled with depravity, so littered with extramarital affairs, so unapologetically vile, with such a vast resume of moral filth—that the mind boggles.

And the change in you is unmistakable. It has been an astonishing conversion to behold: a being born again.

With him, you suddenly find religion.
With him, you’re now willing to offer full absolution.
With him, all is forgiven without repentance or admission.
With him you’re suddenly able to see some invisible, deeply buried heart.
With him, sin has become unimportant, compassion no longer a requirement.
With him, you see only Providence.
Trump supporters in general say "Meh, so what if he's a total ass; he's making America great again," but white evangelicals right here on DTT have said God is using Trump to make America great again.

Right there is where white evangelicals make a break from reality and decency, and morality, flushing it all down the toilet along with your honor.
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Old January 29th, 2018, 09:24 AM   #25
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Are there any white evangelical churches?
Are all evangelicals white?
Did black evangelicals vote for Trump?
Have white evangelicals not voted for Obama?
Have only white evangelicals spoken against Obama policies?
Did Obama hide behind his half black skin and did they criticize his race or his platform?
Did Obama supporters scream "racism" when Obama was criticized?
Do only white evangelicals make a break from reality and decency, and morality, flushing it all down the toilet along with their honor?
Why did Trump win? Did he speak to the "silent majority", black, white, brown and yellow?
Pardon me, but I think singling out white evangelicals is absurd. It makes for a slick talking point and fits a mood of the time, sure. Anything we can hurl against Trump is cool.
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Obama got a minority of the White Evangelical vote. Clinton got an even smaller minority.

The real question is how could anyone professing to be a Christian vote for Trump?

The white evangelicals rejected Bill Clinton over his moral failings but Trump falls far short of even that standard
So did King David, so did King Saul, so did Nebacanezzar of Persia, King Cyrus of Persia, so did Obama, So did Carter, So did Reagan, JFK, Ike, FDR and every other POTUS elected in the US


ALL HAVE FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD... ... ..

That incudes me and you, all means ALL.
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Old January 29th, 2018, 02:13 PM   #27
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Because we understand forgiveness something you do not understand or care about. Why would you even post in this thread we know where you stand.

DING DING DING DING DING WE HAZ A WINNER !!!!!! Here you are PROVING THE POINT of the article, and proving what i have said on several occasions.

And there it is folks, the HOLIER THAN THOU false piety !!!!

NOT IN EIGHT YEARS DID YOU "FORGIVE" OBAMA !!!!

Trumps IS EVERYTHING you people claim to abhor. He HAS committed every sin that YOU HAVE PUNISHED other politician for.

I've said it before AND the the article says it again. ANYONE that supports Trump HAS GIVEN AWAY THEIR CHRISTIANITY, THEIR MORALITY, THEIR HUMANITY. You simply cannot support trump and be a REAL Christian.
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One can be an ass in more than one way, and one can be offended by either.
So mainly skin color....can you think of something else?
Something real?
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DING DING DING DING DING WE HAZ A WINNER !!!!!! Here you are PROVING THE POINT of the article, and proving what i have said on several occasions.

And there it is folks, the HOLIER THAN THOU false piety !!!!

NOT IN EIGHT YEARS DID YOU "FORGIVE" OBAMA !!!!

Trumps IS EVERYTHING you people claim to abhor. He HAS committed every sin that YOU HAVE PUNISHED other politician for.

I've said it before AND the the article says it again. ANYONE that supports Trump HAS GIVEN AWAY THEIR CHRISTIANITY, THEIR MORALITY, THEIR HUMANITY. You simply cannot support trump and be a REAL Christian.
I have been told over and over that my religious views don't matter when choosing a President. He is far better than the alternative and is proving it. My issues with Obama were policy related. I have given nothing away, I prayed for Obama, I pray for Trump. I pray for the country to turn back toward God.
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Obama got a minority of the White Evangelical vote. Clinton got an even smaller minority.

The real question is how could anyone professing to be a Christian vote for Trump?

The white evangelicals rejected Bill Clinton over his moral failings but Trump falls far short of even that standard.
Neither Bill or Hillary ever showed one ounce of Faith. I thought it shouldn't matter when deciding on President, what the thought of God make up your mind.
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