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Old February 17th, 2018, 07:46 AM   #1
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Libs beware. It's open season on ya.

Part of a longer op-ed worth reading. Link: How John Kelly hijacked the presidency

Yep, Kelly's running DC's regiment, and in other news: Libs beware. It's open season on ya.
...Trump is not the decider. Instead, his presidency serves primarily as the focal point for the anger and resentments that got him elected. By serving as a living, breathing, swearing, and tweeting avatar of furious Republican voters, the president manages to keep the administration ideologically centered in the broadest sense.

But the endless stream of Trumpian invective also makes liberals apoplectic a reaction that just as endlessly delights those same Republican voters, who increasingly view politics as a form of full-contact entertainment modeled, metaphorically at least, on the gladiatorial spectacles of ancient Rome. ( )

That's why I partially disagree with Jacob Levy's thoughtful essay about the importance of treating Trump's verbal invective with utmost seriousness and concern, regardless of what policies get enacted during his presidency. The president's words derive their enormous power entirely from how we respond to them.

If we react to every ignorant, racist utterance by proclaiming, "Oh my God, can you believe what Trump just tweeted? It's is so terrible and dangerous for the president to talk that way!", then we have played a crucially important role in validating those utterances as terrible and dangerous.

...maybe we need to start treating him a little less like a president and a little more like the demagogic carnival barker he truly is. That doesn't necessarily mean ignoring the vituperation and the tweets. But it might mean responding to them with selective mockery and dismissal instead of constant and continual panic and alarm.
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Part of a longer op-ed worth reading. Link: How John Kelly hijacked the presidency

Yep, Kelly's running DC's regiment, and in other news: Libs beware. It's open season on ya.
...Trump is not the decider. Instead, his presidency serves primarily as the focal point for the anger and resentments that got him elected. By serving as a living, breathing, swearing, and tweeting avatar of furious Republican voters, the president manages to keep the administration ideologically centered in the broadest sense.

But the endless stream of Trumpian invective also makes liberals apoplectic a reaction that just as endlessly delights those same Republican voters, who increasingly view politics as a form of full-contact entertainment modeled, metaphorically at least, on the gladiatorial spectacles of ancient Rome. ( )

That's why I partially disagree with Jacob Levy's thoughtful essay about the importance of treating Trump's verbal invective with utmost seriousness and concern, regardless of what policies get enacted during his presidency. The president's words derive their enormous power entirely from how we respond to them.

If we react to every ignorant, racist utterance by proclaiming, "Oh my God, can you believe what Trump just tweeted? It's is so terrible and dangerous for the president to talk that way!", then we have played a crucially important role in validating those utterances as terrible and dangerous.

...maybe we need to start treating him a little less like a president and a little more like the demagogic carnival barker he truly is. That doesn't necessarily mean ignoring the vituperation and the tweets. But it might mean responding to them with selective mockery and dismissal instead of constant and continual panic and alarm.
Very good points. How many times have we seen Democrats/liberals criticize something particularize moronic said/done by Trump and point out clearly and logically just why it's moronic and after the RW finally run out of ways to defend it simply end the exchange by saying something along the lines of, "well, it's just so much FUN to see you libs have a meltdown?"
They are like snotty children, their point is just to piss off the adults with their nonsense, many times it's the ONLY point.
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Old February 17th, 2018, 08:34 AM   #3
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Part of a longer op-ed worth reading. Link: How John Kelly hijacked the presidency

Yep, Kelly's running DC's regiment, and in other news: Libs beware. It's open season on ya.
...Trump is not the decider. Instead, his presidency serves primarily as the focal point for the anger and resentments that got him elected. By serving as a living, breathing, swearing, and tweeting avatar of furious Republican voters, the president manages to keep the administration ideologically centered in the broadest sense.

But the endless stream of Trumpian invective also makes liberals apoplectic a reaction that just as endlessly delights those same Republican voters, who increasingly view politics as a form of full-contact entertainment modeled, metaphorically at least, on the gladiatorial spectacles of ancient Rome. ( )

That's why I partially disagree with Jacob Levy's thoughtful essay about the importance of treating Trump's verbal invective with utmost seriousness and concern, regardless of what policies get enacted during his presidency. The president's words derive their enormous power entirely from how we respond to them.

If we react to every ignorant, racist utterance by proclaiming, "Oh my God, can you believe what Trump just tweeted? It's is so terrible and dangerous for the president to talk that way!", then we have played a crucially important role in validating those utterances as terrible and dangerous.

...maybe we need to start treating him a little less like a president and a little more like the demagogic carnival barker he truly is. That doesn't necessarily mean ignoring the vituperation and the tweets. But it might mean responding to them with selective mockery and dismissal instead of constant and continual panic and alarm.
The most important thing the Founders understood when they decided on the language of the Constitution, and make up of our governing structure, is that human beings have a shelf life. They knew that each generation would have different views and ideas than the one the preceded them, and so gave them the framework to put those ideas and views into practice.

The Constitution itself is made up of Amendments. Which means it can be "Amended". There are no Amendments, that can't be Amended, and that goes for all of them. None are sacred, or are written in stone.

A generation that is currently coming along known as the Millennials, are some 80 million strong. They will be replacing the Boomers that were some 76 million strong, and are now shrinking due to their shelf life.

You can't influence public policy when you're dead. And these Millennials don't have the same ideas, views, or sacred cows, as the Boomers do.

Three of those biggest sacred cows being guns, gays, and abortion.

Millennials are very tolerant on the issue of LGBT rights, overwhelmingly support a womans right to choose, and with each new school shooting are less and less tolerant on gun rights.

Whether the current still living Boomers believe it or not, there will come a time in this country that gay rights, a womans right to choose, and the 2nd Amendment, will be Amended.

This is something Trump, Kelly, or any other sycophants of their ilk or their generation can possibly grasp, and because of the shelf life we all have, the newer generations don't care, don't honor, and are moving on from.

Good for them.
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Old February 17th, 2018, 08:47 AM   #4
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Right wingers are a very insecure and frightened people. They compensate by talking tough but they don’t fool me. Their total lack of empathy for the victims and the families of those lives slaughtered in Florida does not make them look tough. They merely look like the faux Christian dear leader that they glorify. Hillary said in one line what the author of the OP spent many lines to achieve. These low life’s are DEPLORABLE and should be treated as such IMO.
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Nah, not playing that game

Yah, I'm Scheiss-intolerant. I don't pay any attention to Trump's Tweets - Why encourage him? I can't bear to listen to nor watch him, I keep thinking that it's an Animatronic cleverly parodying some mad fictional president invented by Paddy Chayefsky (how I miss that man). The 24/7 news cables do us a disservice - they take the Tweets seriously. (I understand that they have to fill the timeslot somehow - But have they actually run out of classic Heckle & Jeckle cartoons? I'd gladly watch those again, there was always something there worth the effort.)

I wait to read them in print, on actual paper - which gives all the spokesthings, pro & con, time to hone their debate points & for the frenzy of the moment to settle. I don't see that I've missed anything of importance thereby.

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After reading both of the above sophist statements, is it any wonder that conservatives find you undeserving of contributing to an adult conversation.
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After reading both of the above sophist statements, is it any wonder that conservatives find you undeserving of contributing to an adult conversation.
And they should give a fuck what you think exactly why?
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And they should give a fuck what you think exactly why?
It's 60's all over again 'Wood.

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Guys, I think they're finally catching on.
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Old February 17th, 2018, 10:05 AM   #10
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Guys, I think they're finally catching on.
It is kinda cute.

It's not like it hasn't been spelled out for them numerous times. But hey. The legacy media says jump....and jump it is.
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