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Old February 19th, 2018, 10:10 AM   #51
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So can you give an example of a successful anarcho-capitalist system that exists anywhere in the world today?

In the Past?
I am not sure what that has to do w/ anything as throughout history the state has been responsible for the majority by far of all atrocities committed against mankind. The real question IMO can you point out a form of statism that is successful?

I guess we should both come to agreement on what would be a "successful society" if this is to be a fruitful discussion.
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Old February 19th, 2018, 10:20 AM   #52
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I am not sure what that has to do w/ anything as throughout history the state has been responsible for the majority by far of all atrocities committed against mankind. The real question IMO can you point out a form of statism that is successful?

I guess we should both come to agreement on what would be a "successful society" if this is to be a fruitful discussion.
A successful society would be people living decent lives in peace.
That does happen, but there always seems to be a state involved.
You could say that much of the US, Canada, Europe is enjoying relative prosperity in peace.

Has Anarcho-Capitalism ever existed ?
It doesn't seem like it could exist for very long.
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Do you not understand anarchy even though it has been explained multiple times to you or are you being willfully obtuse in hopes to make a cheap shot, or are you just honestly that stupid?

Now there are some here that i do not give the benefit of the doubt to regarding intelligence (want a hint on a few of them see the "thank box" on your post) but you are not one of them. So i will bite. Let's completely derail this ridiculous thread into a discussion about anarchy.


Oh gosh...and you went to all that work for nothing. Of course, I was being sarcastic, sassy, obtuse and somewhat genuine.

The point is that you have no viable argument that ANYONE with a reasonable, sound mind will buy and yet you accuse others of insanity.
Sab, there is a reason WHY there are NO anarchist societies, territories, communes, states, or communities and those that DID exist didn't make it. They were small and obscure-more like social experiments.

We have discussed this before. Stateless societies are not successful and there's a reason for that. Anarchy is not necessarily non-organized and non-hierarchical. It is just a regime without a state. That is under anarchy you can have corporations, churches, communities, people's committees, even courts... but not what we call the state or the government. Arguably it is a flawed position somehow because in such circumstances those bodies become the state in all but the name. AND of course I'm quoting from many authors who have studied this subject.

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I have said from the beginning, when he refused to release his financial information, that my fear is he owes the Russian oligarchy hundreds of millions of dollars. It's estimated he owes somewhere between $350 and $650 MILLION dollars. That more than enough to drive him into bankruptcy if they called those loans. His own son stated that they had received substantial investment from Russia.
My beef is with the sole focus on what he might owe Russians, while the most conclusive evidence so far of Trump making money deals and bargains is with:the Saudis and Israel, thanks to the two zionist billionaires who financed his campaign, picked out cabinet officials and made him do a 180 early on when mused out loud about making a peace treaty happen.
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