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Old February 23rd, 2018, 11:49 AM   #1
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Name one liberal idea or law that is not in some form a direct imposition or threat of on the people.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 01:07 PM   #2
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Name one liberal idea or law that is not in some form a direct imposition or threat of on the people.
I guess that's going to depend on what you call an imposition or threat ??

Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joe’s bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe’s deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joe’s money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad's; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark.)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show. The host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day)

Joe agrees. "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."

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I guess that's going to depend on what you call an imposition or threat ??

Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joes bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joes deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joes money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad's; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark.)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show. The host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day)

Joe agrees. "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."


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Old February 23rd, 2018, 02:50 PM   #4
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Name one liberal idea or law that is not in some form a direct imposition or threat of on the people.
"on the people" = public, collectively
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Social Security (paid by recipients)

Alternative renewable energy

National Healthcare plus more like non-profit drug mfg. and salaried providers

Higher minimum wage and tie it to inflation

WSDEs (Workers' Self-Directed Enterprises)

Government-run prisons (end privatization)

Public education only, and properly funded, run by teachers

A state-owned bank in every state (like the Bank of North Dakota)

Ban all gifts and contributions to all politicians and campaigns above $500/household/year

End Citizens United

End excessive profit and salaries associated with colleges and universities

Set estate tax at 50% for all inheritance above $10 million

Ban stock ownership of more than 10% of issued stock per person

Add several new tax brackets with the top being an 80% tax on everything above $1 million/yr.

Ban lobbying by more than 1 person per business

Ban law-writing/creation by anyone not in government

Ban the A.L.E.C. and any orgs like it

Treat Native Americans fairly, with respect, and provide them a pathway to better conditions.

Require the primary purpose and responsibility of all businesses be to contribute to society; end non-productive businesses that just make profits for the owners with nothing positive contributed

Ban non-organic, non-biodegradable pesticides and herbicides

I could go on and on. All these things contribute to the people, -not impose.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 03:00 PM   #5
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Name one liberal idea or law that is not in some form a direct imposition or threat of on the people.
Define a "liberal law" or a "liberal idea."
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Here's to you, Bubba!

Thank you, thank you. Just so everyone will know I am not the author of this piece. It's been floating around the internet for at least 10 years maybe longer.
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Define a "liberal law" or a "liberal idea."
Probably anything a conservative or right winger wouldn't propose.
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Probably anything a conservative or right winger wouldn't propose.
Almost certainly.
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Old February 23rd, 2018, 03:55 PM   #9
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I guess that's going to depend on what you call an imposition or threat ??

Joe gets up at 6:00 AM to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.

All but $10.00 of his medications are paid for by his employers medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance, now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs this day. Joes bacon is safe to eat because some liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day; he has a good job with excellent pay, medicals benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.

It's noon time, Joe needs to make a Bank Deposit so he can pay some bills. Joes deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal wanted to protect Joes money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae underwritten Mortgage and his below market federal student loan because some stupid liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his life-time.

Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dad's; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republicans would still be sitting in the dark.)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

He turns on a radio talk show. The host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. (He doesn't tell Joe that his beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day)

Joe agrees. "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives; after all, I'm a self made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
That is a great parody of something. Unfortunately it does not even begin to answer the question. Furthermore, it makes a lot of assumptions that liberals are responsible for everything you said. You would need to source that
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[QUOTE=Kode;1145121]"on the people" = public, collectively
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Social Security (paid by recipients)
By being forced to pay. Furthermore, generation x will be the first generation to receive less in benefits that they pay in. Yet under threat of people with guns coming to arrest you, a person is forced to participate. That is a imposition.

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Alternative renewable energy
Now your just throwing out catch phrases. But, if it includes increasing the cost of electrical and gas services, and higher taxation, that is an imposition.

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National Healthcare plus more like non-profit drug mfg. and salaried providers
Does not exist in the United States. But if your going to increase taxes to do so, which every Socialist has said must happen, then that is an imposition.

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Higher minimum wage and tie it to inflation
Definitely an imposition on many small businesses and the employees as they get replaced by kiosks.

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WSDEs (Workers' Self-Directed Enterprises)
Who pays for it or how is it subsidized? Or, are you saying it should be imposed on all business? Either way, imposition

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Government-run prisons (end privatization)
Which is cheaper to the tax payer? Increasing taxes to fund this would be an imposition.

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Public education only, and properly funded, run by teachers
Taking away education choice. Bigly imposition

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A state-owned bank in every state (like the Bank of North Dakota)
Taking away choice again
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Ban all gifts and contributions to all politicians and campaigns above $500/household/year
How the fuck can you use the word ban and not say its creating an imposition?

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End Citizens United
Elections have consequences. You favor deciding who can and cant donate to political entities.

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End excessive profit and salaries associated with colleges and universities
I am not sure that is a liberal idea at all. I call that a maybe because I doubt you would find very many liberals who would agree with that

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Set estate tax at 50% for all inheritance above $10 million
Death tax. How the hell is that no imposing on someone.
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Ban stock ownership of more than 10% of issued stock per person
Ban? Imposition

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Add several new tax brackets with the top being an 80% tax on everything above $1 million/yr.
Tax increase, that is imposing without a doubt.
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Ban lobbying by more than 1 person per business
Ban
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Ban law-writing/creation by anyone not in government
Ban
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Ban the A.L.E.C. and any orgs like it
Ban anything we do not agree with
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Treat Native Americans fairly, with respect, and provide them a pathway to better conditions.
Treating people with respect is a liberal only idea? That is just BTFO
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Require the primary purpose and responsibility of all businesses be to contribute to society; end non-productive businesses that just make profits for the owners with nothing positive contributed
Require? Fuck that is a big time imposition
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Ban non-organic, non-biodegradable pesticides and herbicides
death tax now this. You hate farmers. Big time imposition

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I could go on and on. All these things contribute to the people, -not impose.
How can you ban something, tell businesses what to do with their profits and say with a straight face that is not imposing on them?
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