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Old March 6th, 2018, 02:27 PM   #11
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That's why I, after more than 30 years voting Republican, no longer do so. They were fiscal conservatives but social progressives. They like to remind us that it was Lincoln and the republicans that freed the slaves. And that Republicans were largely responsible for most of the this country's major social initiatives over the last 150 years.

NO LONGER !!! Today's Republicans would never vote to free the the slaves, give blacks or women the vote or pass the civil rights act. In fact there are more than a few that have proposed undoing some of those things. They have certainly given up all pretense of fiscal restraint. It seems the only time
they worry about debt and government spending is when there's a Democrat in the white house to blame it on.

Your second paragraph is utter nonsense, so what you are saying is republicans are acting like democrats. Welfare, illegal immigrants, are about nothing but votes, try and tell me different. Hint it won't work.
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Your second paragraph is utter nonsense, so what you are saying is republicans are acting like democrats. Welfare, illegal immigrants, are about nothing but votes, try and tell me different. Hint it won't work.
They ARE acting like the Democrats, well to be more explicit the DIXIECRATS !! The southern segregationists. GEORGE WALLACE !!!!

Their rants and raves against gays, gay marriage, women's reproductive rights, women's rights in general, muslims, just about any other non-christian, non-white culture, are almost word for word exactly the same language used by the segregationists during the civil rights movement. Congratulations, it's 2018 and you've arrived back in the 1950s.
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Old March 6th, 2018, 04:47 PM   #13
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The majority of Americans are "in the middle" this is why it is so important that the polititions and legacy media push this identity politics crap. Keep the huttled masses fighting amungst one and other. Encourage tribalism. Shit politics has replaced sports for the most part ti fill that "us vs them" my team is better 5han your team" void.


I spend a lot of time w/ gen z in a very, very liberal city. I have worked/ both the debate and speech teams. They for the most part do not care about all that shit. The hyper sensitive millennials and younger gen x liberals are their teachers. They are sick to death of this and that. They have had the internet in their pockets all their lives. You cant lie to them or pretend you know something. They just look it up. They understand sourcing and what is just opinion bs. They have had everything from YouTube to youporn on their phones. They could give a shit less if sally is a transgendered-bi racial- lesbian but do not see why she should be able to cut in line and get the last chocolate milk because of it. It is refreshing.

I am not kidding when i compare todays leftists to the religious right of the 80s and 90s.

Liber-vangicals

They are just pushing some different crazy dogma.

If they're liber-vangelicals where does that put the fright wing ??

I am glad to hear the younger generations are ignoring the politicians and media. It gives me hope for the future of this country. I've been tickled to the see high school kids out of Florida so engaged. Regardless of where you sit on gun control, they are engaged, articulate and active. I think it's a damned healthy sign.
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Old March 6th, 2018, 09:23 PM   #15
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If they're liber-vangelicals where does that put the fright wing ??

I am glad to hear the younger generations are ignoring the politicians and media. It gives me hope for the future of this country. I've been tickled to the see high school kids out of Florida so engaged. Regardless of where you sit on gun control, they are engaged, articulate and active. I think it's a damned healthy sign.
The fright wing is the same place that they have always been. As the theme of the thread is...they are dying. The difference is the younger generations are not trying to keep them alive. We are letting them die. That is why so many are publicly jumping ship over to the democrats. Thd left is playing the same game, using the same.moves and saying yhe same.shit that they did in the 90s and 2000s.
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George W. Bush brags: Trump “sorta makes me look pretty good”


He may no longer be the most-hated president of the 21st century, but Trump won’t help Bush repair his legacy

One of the Republican Party's most-famous faces appears to be thankful for the bombastic and unstable presence of President Donald Trump, believing the current White House resident could help grow his depleted stock.

Former president George W. Bush often smiles when the chaoses and scandals that are trademarks of Trump's administration enter into a conversation, according to a new report. "Without chiming in with the Trump critics, Bush is often heard to remark, unable to stifle his trademark smirk: 'Sorta makes me look pretty good, doesn't it?'" the National Journal reports.
I guess all things are relative.

https://www.salon.com/2018/03/06/geo...k-pretty-good/
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I'm waiting for the moderates in the middle to get together and start a viable new third party. There are lots of liberal republicans and conservative democrats who are for the most part no longer represented by either party. Both parties are increasingly entrenched at their extremes and the ONLY people with a voice are corporations and those with deeps pockets. Who are often one and the same.
Both party's will simply morph into something else. The one faction both party's share is the Libertarian faction, but for different reasons.

The lowest common denominator is the same. Money.

It doesn't matter how many party's there are, as long as the current economic models are in place.

The deep pockets have destroyed the one thing that has led to the polarization you see today. The middleclass. And how that happened is very simple. The lowering of tax rates from where they were at the time of the JFK administration, and the passage of right to work laws that have gutted labor organizing.

Until we get back to that time, or somewhere close to it, nothing will matter, nothing will change, and no party will make a difference.
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They ARE acting like the Democrats, well to be more explicit the DIXIECRATS !! The southern segregationists. GEORGE WALLACE !!!!

Their rants and raves against gays, gay marriage, women's reproductive rights, women's rights in general, muslims, just about any other non-christian, non-white culture, are almost word for word exactly the same language used by the segregationists during the civil rights movement. Congratulations, it's 2018 and you've arrived back in the 1950s.
No, no, no, I am a conservative! I am a white, male, Christian conservative, and none of those things are true. Many non conservatives were against gay marriage, so what, I am against it, so what nothing I can do about it. Women's reproductive rights, how so. Islamic extremists I am against, Muslims who are peaceful are fine. Are you asserting that the Republican party is for segregation if so you have a lot of explaining to do. If you are asserting they are for returning to slavery even more so.
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If they're liber-vangelicals where does that put the fright wing ??

I am glad to hear the younger generations are ignoring the politicians and media. It gives me hope for the future of this country. I've been tickled to the see high school kids out of Florida so engaged. Regardless of where you sit on gun control, they are engaged, articulate and active. I think it's a damned healthy sign.
Fright Wing, please explain the term.
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