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Old April 24th, 2018, 06:47 PM   #21
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Old April 25th, 2018, 05:42 AM   #22
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Holy cow, it must suck to be poor like you.
Actually history tells us a lot about the rise and fall of civilizations and when a civilization's wealth is held by fewer and fewer people, and the masses living in poverty increases to the tipping point, there are rebellions and eventually the civilizations fall. Democracy, a social organization that gives people political power, was supposed to be a better way. However, for democracy to be a better way, people must be well educated and I think we are failing to have well educated people.

There are different causes of poverty. Surely you have witnessed what happens when the economy crashes. Unfortunately we are not educated enough to prevent this, nor to understand the importance of population control. Reacting as though all cases of poverty are only personal failure and therefore not something government should do something about, seems to be a belief lacking adequate information.
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The book Twilight of American Culture covers the media problem and I think it is a most serious problem! I think we can kick this problem back to the education problem. To my horror when I spoke with newspaper editors, I realized they do not know the importance of their job. They understood the economic aspect of their job, but not the ideological value of their job. Only when our democracy is defended in the classroom is it defended and that has not been done since 1958.

As I have returned to working on my book about democracy, I am very sensitive to the problem of Christianity. I don't know how to approach this problem, but not even the ethics of the Bible make this mythology worth the problem it causes. Jesus might be a god of love, but he is nothing like the jealous, revengeful, fearsome and punishing god of the old testament. The god of the old testament is the role model of an abusive husband and Jesus said He is our Father in heaven. Thinking of Trump as our father doing the will of god, and that weapons of mass destruction are a good thing for the father to have and use, is a frightening idea. Trump does not have global consciousness and his worship of Mannon that goes with this military "power and glory" is not the meaning of making America great again that we should support.
Yep, got the book, it's on the reading list. You might also look @ Noam Chomsky on media concentration - there's lots of his material (interviews, clips, etc.) on the Internet.

Yes, newspaper editors (& newspapers & the MSM in general) have fallen asleep @ the wheel. They think they're normal businesses, & just have to make a fair profit. They're wrong, of course. The Founding Fathers put too big a burden on their perfumed shoulders, & they've failed their responsibilities miserably - witness the last election cycle. We probably need to expand PBS & get it some more government or independent funding - in order to have a third-party, unbiased opinion on real-World events, & especially political coverage.

Will you share some of your work-in-progress here, or do we have to buy the book? It's certainly a topic that never grows old.

doing the will of god - Yah, if it's any comfort, most of the Christian belief systems, @ least, seem to consider that we are all doing God's will - whether we will it or no, know it or no. Permissively or actively, we are held to be God's cat's-paws. An opinion I don't share - it seems to contradict the Occam's Razor principle - why do things by remote when You could easily take a hand directly? But maybe that's just me.
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I was just asking if his gibberish was an attempt to start a discussion about Nazguls and Lord of the Rings. With him it's so hard to tell.
I'm not actually NazBol. Just a meme.

My actual beliefs are rather nebulous. I would say that the only thing that I'm particularly concerned about is the protection of my people. I think that labeling is a dangerous game, and creates an unnecessary pull to the past, or creates an issue of big-tentism, that being the ideology is watered down to a point of insignificance. I would say that the single biggest thing on my mind politically is the Great Replacement, our own cultural suicide forced upon us. I think that it's sort of pointless to have a hobby-horse about everything from poverty to the poor starving darkies in Africa, so I think it's more beneficial to the soul to pick one cause and support it.

I think that our (as in, my people. I don't know nor care what you are) people are threatened by declining birth rates, cultural propaganda to make them weak-spined, ineffectual, and fully indoctrinated into supporting and cheering on their own executions. I believe in having pride for my spirit, for my eternal soul. I could go on, and on, but I don't feel like it. Mostly because you won't read a damn thing I'll write. You probably didn't even get this far.
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I'm not actually NazBol. Just a meme.

My actual beliefs are rather nebulous. I would say that the only thing that I'm particularly concerned about is the protection of my people. I think that labeling is a dangerous game, and creates an unnecessary pull to the past, or creates an issue of big-tentism, that being the ideology is watered down to a point of insignificance. I would say that the single biggest thing on my mind politically is the Great Replacement, our own cultural suicide forced upon us. I think that it's sort of pointless to have a hobby-horse about everything from poverty to the poor starving darkies in Africa, so I think it's more beneficial to the soul to pick one cause and support it.

I think that our (as in, my people. I don't know nor care what you are) people are threatened by declining birth rates, cultural propaganda to make them weak-spined, ineffectual, and fully indoctrinated into supporting and cheering on their own executions. I believe in having pride for my spirit, for my eternal soul. I could go on, and on, but I don't feel like it. Mostly because you won't read a damn thing I'll write. You probably didn't even get this far.
And what group is "your people"?
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I think we're stuck here for no particular reason, so the less harm we do the better. Capitalism will destroy everyone and cause huge suffering meanwhile, so we ought to get shot of it: like living in caves or making tools out of stones, it has outlived its usefulness. Meanwhile, the more we know about the world, the better, so Education, Education, Education!
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American!

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I'm not actually NazBol. Just a meme.

My actual beliefs are rather nebulous. I would say that the only thing that I'm particularly concerned about is the protection of my people. I think that labeling is a dangerous game, and creates an unnecessary pull to the past, or creates an issue of big-tentism, that being the ideology is watered down to a point of insignificance. I would say that the single biggest thing on my mind politically is the Great Replacement, our own cultural suicide forced upon us. I think that it's sort of pointless to have a hobby-horse about everything from poverty to the poor starving darkies in Africa, so I think it's more beneficial to the soul to pick one cause and support it.

I think that our (as in, my people. I don't know nor care what you are) people are threatened by declining birth rates, cultural propaganda to make them weak-spined, ineffectual, and fully indoctrinated into supporting and cheering on their own executions. I believe in having pride for my spirit, for my eternal soul. I could go on, and on, but I don't feel like it. Mostly because you won't read a damn thing I'll write. You probably didn't even get this far.
Give us all a exact definition of who your people are. You keep talking about "my people". Well, who specifically is that?
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American!

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Were you asked the question? I think not.
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Yep, got the book, it's on the reading list. You might also look @ Noam Chomsky on media concentration - there's lots of his material (interviews, clips, etc.) on the Internet.

Yes, newspaper editors (& newspapers & the MSM in general) have fallen asleep @ the wheel. They think they're normal businesses, & just have to make a fair profit. They're wrong, of course. The Founding Fathers put too big a burden on their perfumed shoulders, & they've failed their responsibilities miserably - witness the last election cycle. We probably need to expand PBS & get it some more government or independent funding - in order to have a third-party, unbiased opinion on real-World events, & especially political coverage.

Will you share some of your work-in-progress here, or do we have to buy the book? It's certainly a topic that never grows old.

doing the will of god - Yah, if it's any comfort, most of the Christian belief systems, @ least, seem to consider that we are all doing God's will - whether we will it or no, know it or no. Permissively or actively, we are held to be God's cat's-paws. An opinion I don't share - it seems to contradict the Occam's Razor principle - why do things by remote when You could easily take a hand directly? But maybe that's just me.
Be careful of what you say, because your thoughts could end up in my book. Always I am testing what I think by putting it in the forum.

Life is so paradoxical and ambiguous! Nothing we say is absolute truth, not even if we quote it from a holy book. As a writer, I am sure god speaks to all of us, only not all of us are skilled listeners and everything is distorted by our own particular point of view and experience. It is an incredible struggle to find the right words to express a thought. That is why I reach out to everyone here a lot. The thought will be hiding in my head and I don't have words for it, but one of you will come up with the words I am looking for.

Socrates questioned people so they would think about what think and be aware of what they think, instead of just reacting without thinking. That is why I ask questions, so people will think about what they. This thread is asking people to think about what they believe. It is hilareous when someone jumps on me for being narrow-minded and trying to force everyone to think as I do. I don't know what I think. When I think about what I think it is apt to change. That makes writing a book seem futile, because my thoughts change so much.

I am so pleased with your agreement that reporters have lost sight of their real job. Our local newpaper is locally owned and was named "Register Guard" because the founder of the paper did understand the real job of a newspaper. Years ago, some of the people in the newspaper offices were just like my grandmother. In their presince you knew what dignity was and you felt the presince of God in the room. I say that as a non Christian. I believe there is higher power, just not the mythology of the bible. If people are moving with the power of that higher power, it is known through experience, not through their ability to quote the bible. I would give anything if our young today could experience being in the presince of that past generation. This colaspe of integity and the colapse of a civilization has happened before, but I don't think there are any words that can adequately convey how different it was to stand in the presince of that older generation. It goes with understanding the real purpose of being a reporter.
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