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Old May 7th, 2018, 08:56 AM   #1
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The Damage of Trump’s Low-Bar Presidency Is Worse Than You Think

The Damage of Trump’s Low-Bar Presidency Is Worse Than You Think


BIGOTRY OF LOW EXPECTATIONS

We are so distracted every day by the latest Trump scandal that it becomes hard to recognize the collective damage being done by his presidency.

It’s not just the breaking of the norms. It’s is the massive lowering of expectations that people will have in their politicians and their governing institutions.

Take this past week. We were told three different story lines
(link:https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/polit...cts/index.html)
on one separate story after it was revealed—in a wholly separate matter—that Trump had dictated that glowing 2015 health report from his doctor.

But it’s more than just the misdirection and mistruths. It’s the cynicism that accompanies them. Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) now says the Department of Veterans Affairs is unmanageable. “I’m not sure anyone can run the VA,” he confessed, as the nomination of Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson to head the department teetered in the balance. “It’s so big, it’s one of the biggest bureaucracies in the federal government.”

Meanwhile, President Trump says he thought the job would be easier and that nobody knew how complicated health care would be.

He has, in short order, created The Low-Bar Presidency, an administration in which we have grown to expect that the spokespeople mislead, that Cabinet officials are corrupt, and that the commander in chief is learning on the job.

Most of us are shocked in real time. But the existential question is whether the Low-Bar Presidency ends when Trump’s tenure does. Or will our expectations forever be lowered because of what he has managed to do less than 18 months into office? Will we assume, from here on out, that our politicians lie so cavalierly to us? That they misuse our taxpayer funds for the betterment of their private lives? That they are incapable of meeting the challenges of governance? If so, the costs could be horrifying.

A population that believes its elected representatives will fail them will stop demanding success, or truth, or competence, or ethics. We won’t throw the bums out. We’ll grow accustomed to living with them.

We’ve been through a crisis of confidence before—as recently as the 1970s. “Americans heard for years that the presidency had grown too complex for one person to manage, that the office had been crippled,” Time magazine’s Lance Morrow recalled in 1986, before adding that, “Reagan seems to slide through a presidential day with ease.”

But since the Gipper rode off into the sunset, we have reverted to form. Just last year, Jeremi Suri’s book, The Impossible Presidency: The Rise and Fall of America’s Highest Office, made this same argument. In the May 2018 edition of The Atlantic, John Dickerson did the same:. “No one man—or woman—can possibly represent the varied, competing interests of 327 million citizens,” he wrote.

Instead of giving presidents a pass for poor leadership, perhaps we should examine how one man did defy the doomsayers. As Morrow wrote, the fundamental reason Reagan defied the odds is simple: “Reagan seems to derive his strength from the fact that he does exactly what he says he will do.”

“He told the air-traffic controllers what he would do, for example, and when they persisted in their strike, he fired them and made it stick. All that has a tonic effect,” wrote Morrow.

Which brings us back to Trump. He doesn’t do what he says he’s going to do.

Whether it’s DACA or TPP or gun control—or sitting down with Robert Mueller or reimbursing Michael Cohen—he consistently has a casual relationship with the truth. Either that, or “his truth” keeps changing.

If it feels like a form of psychological manipulation, that’s because it is. As conservative commentator Amanda Carpenter’s new book argues, Trump is “Gaslighting America.” We’ve had our share of liars and incompetents in the Oval Office, but never before have we had a president so masterful at psychologically manipulating us and making us question our own perception of reality.

“The difference is that Clinton and Nixon used gaslighting to try and create this alternative reality as a defensive measure when they were caught doing something wrong,” Carpenter explains. “Trump is different on an extreme level because he does it offensively.”

The end result is a public that doesn’t trust its government to tell the truth—or have confidence that it can properly function. It is the Low-Bar Presidency. And not only does it rejigger our expectations and change our level of tolerance for this kind of behavior in real time, it also invites the next president (regardless of party) to act this way too down the road.

Call it normalizing bad behavior, or creating permission structure, if you will. We have broken the seal; the genie is out of the bottle.

Matt Lewis
05.07.18 4:44 AM ET
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-da...ink?ref=scroll
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Old May 7th, 2018, 09:10 AM   #2
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The Damage of Trump’s Low-Bar Presidency Is Worse Than You Think


BIGOTRY OF LOW EXPECTATIONS

We are so distracted every day by the latest Trump scandal that it becomes hard to recognize the collective damage being done by his presidency.

It’s not just the breaking of the norms. It’s is the massive lowering of expectations that people will have in their politicians and their governing institutions.

Take this past week. We were told three different story lines
(link:https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/polit...cts/index.html)
on one separate story after it was revealed—in a wholly separate matter—that Trump had dictated that glowing 2015 health report from his doctor.

But it’s more than just the misdirection and mistruths. It’s the cynicism that accompanies them. Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) now says the Department of Veterans Affairs is unmanageable. “I’m not sure anyone can run the VA,” he confessed, as the nomination of Rear Adm. Ronny Jackson to head the department teetered in the balance. “It’s so big, it’s one of the biggest bureaucracies in the federal government.”

Meanwhile, President Trump says he thought the job would be easier and that nobody knew how complicated health care would be.

He has, in short order, created The Low-Bar Presidency, an administration in which we have grown to expect that the spokespeople mislead, that Cabinet officials are corrupt, and that the commander in chief is learning on the job.

Most of us are shocked in real time. But the existential question is whether the Low-Bar Presidency ends when Trump’s tenure does. Or will our expectations forever be lowered because of what he has managed to do less than 18 months into office? Will we assume, from here on out, that our politicians lie so cavalierly to us? That they misuse our taxpayer funds for the betterment of their private lives? That they are incapable of meeting the challenges of governance? If so, the costs could be horrifying.

A population that believes its elected representatives will fail them will stop demanding success, or truth, or competence, or ethics. We won’t throw the bums out. We’ll grow accustomed to living with them.

We’ve been through a crisis of confidence before—as recently as the 1970s. “Americans heard for years that the presidency had grown too complex for one person to manage, that the office had been crippled,” Time magazine’s Lance Morrow recalled in 1986, before adding that, “Reagan seems to slide through a presidential day with ease.”

But since the Gipper rode off into the sunset, we have reverted to form. Just last year, Jeremi Suri’s book, The Impossible Presidency: The Rise and Fall of America’s Highest Office, made this same argument. In the May 2018 edition of The Atlantic, John Dickerson did the same:. “No one man—or woman—can possibly represent the varied, competing interests of 327 million citizens,” he wrote.

Instead of giving presidents a pass for poor leadership, perhaps we should examine how one man did defy the doomsayers. As Morrow wrote, the fundamental reason Reagan defied the odds is simple: “Reagan seems to derive his strength from the fact that he does exactly what he says he will do.”

“He told the air-traffic controllers what he would do, for example, and when they persisted in their strike, he fired them and made it stick. All that has a tonic effect,” wrote Morrow.

Which brings us back to Trump. He doesn’t do what he says he’s going to do.

Whether it’s DACA or TPP or gun control—or sitting down with Robert Mueller or reimbursing Michael Cohen—he consistently has a casual relationship with the truth. Either that, or “his truth” keeps changing.

If it feels like a form of psychological manipulation, that’s because it is. As conservative commentator Amanda Carpenter’s new book argues, Trump is “Gaslighting America.” We’ve had our share of liars and incompetents in the Oval Office, but never before have we had a president so masterful at psychologically manipulating us and making us question our own perception of reality.

“The difference is that Clinton and Nixon used gaslighting to try and create this alternative reality as a defensive measure when they were caught doing something wrong,” Carpenter explains. “Trump is different on an extreme level because he does it offensively.”

The end result is a public that doesn’t trust its government to tell the truth—or have confidence that it can properly function. It is the Low-Bar Presidency. And not only does it rejigger our expectations and change our level of tolerance for this kind of behavior in real time, it also invites the next president (regardless of party) to act this way too down the road.

Call it normalizing bad behavior, or creating permission structure, if you will. We have broken the seal; the genie is out of the bottle.

Matt Lewis
05.07.18 4:44 AM ET
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-da...ink?ref=scroll
Trumps Low Bar?

Lets see Obama said he was going to be the most Transparent Potus in history, then he turned out to be worse than Nixon

Trump IS the most transparent in history, everyone in the world knows what he is thinking every day.

He has fixed Obama's failed Economy
He is fixing Obama's, Bush's and Clinton's failed Foreign Policy
He is Fixing Obama's Failed Healthcare plan
He is fixing Obama's failed Domestic policies.
His approval is higher than Obamas as the same period of his presidency

if Trump is the LOW BAR what the hell does that make Obama, The Ground level.
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Old May 7th, 2018, 12:56 PM   #3
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Trumps Low Bar?

Lets see Obama said he was going to be the most Transparent Potus in history, then he turned out to be worse than Nixon

Trump IS the most transparent in history, everyone in the world knows what he is thinking every day.

He has fixed Obama's failed Economy
He is fixing Obama's, Bush's and Clinton's failed Foreign Policy
He is Fixing Obama's Failed Healthcare plan
He is fixing Obama's failed Domestic policies.
His approval is higher than Obamas as the same period of his presidency

if Trump is the LOW BAR what the hell does that make Obama, The Ground level.
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Old May 7th, 2018, 01:14 PM   #4
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Trump IS the most transparent in history, everyone in the world knows what he is thinking every day.
You seem to confuse "everyone in the world knows what he is thinking every day" with "every day everyone in the world know that he doesn't think."
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Tristan, as horrified as many of us are at Trump's incredible behavior, lies, exaggerations, name-calling and lack of ethics/morals, it's becoming more and more apparent that we should begin to focus on HOW this has affected our country. Even more shocking is the continued response from American voters across this country: THEY DON'T care. They don't care that he lies. They don't care that he cheats on his wife (wives). They don't care that he has no idea what he's doing. They don't care that his cabinet picks are simply incompetent. They don't care that our intelligence community has been discredited--that our lawmakers have to lie for their president.
They don't care that his staff is a revolving door nor do they seem surprised or concerned. They don't care that 43 GOP lawmakers are leaving. They don't care that our allies can't stand Trump and that he is completely untrustworthy.

These things are important for many reasons. The presidency HAS changed. It is no longer respected. It is no longer held to a higher standard. It no longer requires experience or statesmanship--diplomacy or finesse. It's no longer something to aspire to for our young people.

AND finally...and this may be the biggest concern: How will we know when the president is telling the truth? How will our allies know?
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Tristan, as horrified as many of us we are at Trump's incredible behavior, lies, exaggerations, name-calling and lack of ethics/morals, it's becoming more and more apparent that we should begin to focus on HOW this has affected our country. Even more shocking is the continued response from American voters across this country: THEY DON'T care. They don't care that he lies. They don't care that he cheats on his wife (wives). They don't care that he has no idea what he's doing. They don't care that his cabinet picks are simply incompetent. They don't care that our intelligence community has been discredited--that our lawmakers have to lie for their president.
They don't care that his staff is a revolving door nor do they seem surprised or concerned. They don't care that 43 GOP lawmakers are leaving. They don't care that our allies can't stand Trump and that he is completely untrustworthy.

These things are important for many reasons. The presidency HAS changed. It is no longer respected. It is no longer held to a higher standard. It no longer requires experience or statesmanship--diplomacy or finesse. It's no longer something to aspire to for our young people.

AND finally...and this may be the biggest concern: How will we know when the president is telling the truth? How will our allies know?
Trump, I doubt many if any parents of DTT posters EVER told them to respect a man like Trump.

Yet, tens of millions have sold their souls to this devil for material gain, and for actions that are leading the world ever-closer to WWIII.
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AND finally...and this may be the biggest concern: How will we know when the president is telling the truth? How will our allies know?
Here in NZ, the answer is "Never" to both questions.

Trump has transformed the US into a pariah state, and things are set to get worse.

Right now, a military coup appears to be the US' best hope. I can't believe I said that.
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Trump, I doubt many if any parents of DTT posters EVER told them to respect a man like Trump.

Yet, tens of millions have sold their souls to this devil for material gain, and for actions that are leading the world ever-closer to WWIII.

A couple more points that plague me. Other presidents have 'strayed'. We know that NOW. We did NOT know it then. They were protected by the press and as far as we know we haven't had to deal with this since Clinton.
There were consequences for Bad Bill and the reason GIVEN is that he had an affair WHILE in office and maybe Trump has not had an affair WHILE in office. I guess that's supposed to make it okay--or better, but that implies that what BILL did OUT of office is okay? Somehow, Hillary became culpable for ALL OF Bill's philandering. Of course, Hillary didn't do anything wrong except to "stand by her man" and verbally shame the women. Hillary became toxic--not BILL. Hillary.

Here's the other area of concern. This new immoral code happened overnight--literally overnight. One minute we're all in agreement about fidelity, lying, fraud, and all the THOU Shalt NOTS. THEN Wednesday morning, November 9th, everything had changed. Not only had it changed but people who had previously strongly/firmly objected (in fact preached) about the eternal damnation of immoral and unethical behavior--people like Evangelicals--had switched sides. Suddenly adultery was fine. Cheating was acceptable. Lying....sure. Fine. Decency didn't matter.

We're living in a strange reality--an upside-down world--where wrong is right and bad is good...because of ONE MAN. Not only is Trump a proud philanderer with no sense of shame, but he is also the most exaggeratedly dishonest commander in chief in history. He's also a politician who knows nothing about policy and breezed into national office despite those flaws.

So, the American voters voted FOR ADULTERY, said YES to lies and HOORAY to shame. Where do we go from here?
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I could almost - ALMOST - deal with them dismissing (forgiving, whatever) his past. We are all capable of reform and bettering ourselves.

But, he has gotten WORSE. And everybody world-wide knows it. He's not even smart or clever enough to hide it well. He is a pathological conman and compulsive liar. He lies when there is nothing to gain - he lies simply because for him there is no honor or dignity or respect for the truth.

THAT'S the part that fills me with disgust and repulsion for these people. And that they would DARE take some high moral ground about ANYTHING EVER is the absolute height of arrogance and hypocrisy.

We now do not even PRETEND to expect honesty and truth from the leader of our country. This creature and his minions will lead us into a cesspool. And if anybody believe they're going to get rich from him, they're CRAZY.
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Here in NZ, the answer is "Never" to both questions.

Trump has transformed the US into a pariah state, and things are set to get worse.

Right now, a military coup appears to be the US' best hope. I can't believe I said that.
You really are unhinged. Its hard to believe that every time you look outside you somehow see chaos and this foreboding darkness. To the point that you now believe that the President of The United States should be removed by any means possible. The lawfully elected President. You got serious issues.
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