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Old June 9th, 2018, 02:19 PM   #31
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Why would you want to forces someone to participate in a wedding they don't want to be a participant?
Because it's really about submission. It's about forcing that damn Christian to bow and submit to their beliefs, while they claim it's the Christian who is the oppressor.
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Old June 9th, 2018, 02:29 PM   #32
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I really don't understand this hard stance taken by some Christians. You're not being forced to attend the event itself as a guest. When the Colorado baker story first came out, I argued that if I was a baker, I would try to bake them whatever they wanted and I'll try to make it as gay as they want because as a Christian, I should wish everyone to be happy and well.

Personally I also feel that the State should get out of the marriage business. Israel does that, they don't get involved in marriage, but will honor ANY marriage from anyplace, so it is just a matter of finding where to get married, not whether it is legal or not.
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Old June 9th, 2018, 03:21 PM   #33
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But we LIVE in a country which DOES recognize marriage - and there are many legal advantages and privileges accorded married couples which should not be held out of bounds for gay married couples.
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Well, I don't know of any civilization in history that believed marriage was anything other than a male and female. This current idea is a new age agenda, unless you have some information on it.
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A few isolated instances is not the same as acceptance by the society.
This is called “moving the goalpost”. You start out with a blanket statement and when that blanket statement is proven wrong you change your statement.
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Old June 9th, 2018, 03:25 PM   #35
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Why would you want to forces someone to participate in a wedding they don't want to be a participant?
They didn’t want him to participate in the wedding. They wanted him to participate in commerce.
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Well, I don't know of any civilization in history that believed marriage was anything other than a male and female. This current idea is a new age agenda, unless you have some information on it.
Just don't care.
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But we LIVE in a country which DOES recognize marriage - and there are many legal advantages and privileges accorded married couples which should not be held out of bounds for gay married couples.
Actually, married couples don't really have any advantages. Their combined incomes are counted as one at the welfare office, while two people can live together and get individual welfare benefits if one of the is low income.
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Just don't care.
You cared enough to spout off without making a point, just being contrary.
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Here's a great article I've found. part of it says -
"Christians, our Jesus said to not only follow the law, but to rise to a higher standard of love. Christians should be the FIRST people baking cakes — for everyone who asks us. We should be known for our cake baking. People should be saying, “There go those crazy Christians again, baking cakes for everyone. They just won’t quit!” Then, when we share the reason for our wild, all-inclusive love, people will want to hear it. “Let your light shine before others,” said Jesus, “that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.

Christians, when we dig our heels in and insist on our right to discriminate, we are hurting people — we are hurting so many people, so deeply. Behind the ACLU and the liberal media are real people, who have been hurt again and again in the name of Christ. Christians, you and I have hurt them. I know most of us have really good intentions, but we are making Jesus the last thing they want to hear about."

https://tenthousandplaces.org/2015/0...-for-them-two/
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They didn’t want him to participate in the wedding. They wanted him to participate in commerce.
They wanted him to do something he didn't want to do. They wanted him to submit and he didn't, so they punished him. He pissed off big brother. Too bad.
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