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Old June 29th, 2018, 04:52 PM   #31
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From what your link says, it's most definitely partisan issue. I'm not sure how you could miss that.
Sure thing sweetie. Are you implying that it was just the evil fright-wing who pushed the helpless democrats to the side and passed one of the most evil pieces of legislation America has ever seen?
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I agree w/ everything that you say becides the disingenuous way that you are attempting to present it as a partisan issue.


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Fear not. I am well aware of the voting record when it comes to the PA. Everyone voted for it. It went from introduced in the house to signed by the president is just four day !!! Talk about no one reading it !!!! Normally I didn't give a shit about Feingold, but THAT day he was a real live American hero.

However in later conversations about PA and when the rest of the actions were taken, it was usually the conservatives who were most vocal in their defense. I truly can't say how many times I heard the phrase, "if you're not a terrorist ..... " Even on this board.

Of course these were the same people who were later shocked and amazed that the NSA would actually eavesdrop on America citizens !!!!
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Sure thing sweetie. Are you implying that it was just the evil fright-wing who pushed the helpless democrats to the side and passed one of the most evil pieces of legislation America has ever seen?
After reading your link, yes- especially in 2006. Even EVERY if Democrat had voted against it in House, they still would have lost. There is a very deep partisan divide in that information. You posted it, not me.

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Fear not. I am well aware of the voting record when it comes to the PA. Everyone voted for it. It went from introduced in the house to signed by the president is just four day !!! Talk about no one reading it !!!! Normally I didn't give a shit about Feingold, but THAT day he was a real live American hero.

However in later conversations about PA and when the rest of the actions were taken, it was usually the conservatives who were most vocal in their defense. I truly can't say how many times I heard the phrase, "if you're not a terrorist ..... " Even on this board.

Of course these were the same people who were later shocked and amazed that the NSA would actually eavesdrop on America citizens !!!!


They sure were. All of that hysteria is how lil bush got a 2nd term but the fact that President Pajama double downed on it should not be overlooked. And still only 66 of those fuckers voted against it. They gaind almost absolute power w/ that move. It does not matter what little team they pretend to be playing for.
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NO SIR !!!!! The REAL over riding question is, WHY DON'T WE PROSECUTE THE TRAITOROUS BASTARDS THAT HIRE THEM ????

ONLY when we make it it VERY EXPENSIVE, and start sending people to prison, for hiring them will we solve the problem.

There are NOT 11 million gardeners and nannies in the country. They work for COMPANIES, small, medium and LARGE !! When we start shutting down Tyson Foods and Walmarts, THEN we'll get the attention of the 1% who benefit from the illegal labor. When we start taking MONEY out of THEIR pockets, then we'll solve the problem.

Just earlier this year Asplundh got busted FOR THE SECOND TIME for having illegals on their pay role. They paid a $95 million dollar fine which seemed quite large to us, but to a $3.5 BILLION dollar per year company it was small change. They "promised" not to do it again.

What SHOULD have happened is they SHOULD HAVE LOST ALL OF THEIR GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS !!! Which is the majority of their business !!!
There are many crimes sure. The first on is crossing the border. Second and third are often lying to get a drivers license and sometimes illegally obtaining a social secirity card. Lets respond appropriately to all the crimes.
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After reading your link, yes- especially in 2006. Even EVERY if Democrat had voted against it in House, they still would have lost. There is a very deep partisan divide in that information. You posted it, not me.
Well, even EVERY if person voted against it it wouldn't have passed.

Just think, even EVERY if Obama wouldn't have flown those planes into those buildings we wouldn't be talking about this now.


If and butts were candy and nuts OJ would still be in the record books
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There are many crimes sure. The first on is crossing the border. Second and third are often lying to get a drivers license and sometimes illegally obtaining a social secirity card. Lets respond appropriately to all the crimes.
Agreed but you're still missing my point. They would NOT come here if they weren't able to obtain JOBS !! The other crimes are all secondary to the fact that AMERICAN businesses hire them. Until we solve that problem, the rest will remain.

I had a friend here in TN that knows a guy, who in March, once it starts to warm up here, hops the border and makes his way here. He works until he's made enough money to live until the next spring, at which point he makes SURE he gets caught by ICE who provide him with a free ride back to Mexico.

First we kill the jobs. Second we get rid of the birthright citizenship. Then we can work on the rest of the problems.
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Agreed but you're still missing my point. They would NOT come here if they weren't able to obtain JOBS !! The other crimes are all secondary to the fact that AMERICAN businesses hire them. Until we solve that problem, the rest will remain.

I had a friend here in TN that knows a guy, who in March, once it starts to warm up here, hops the border and makes his way here. He works until he's made enough money to live until the next spring, at which point he makes SURE he gets caught by ICE who provide him with a free ride back to Mexico.

First we kill the jobs. Second we get rid of the birthright citizenship. Then we can work on the rest of the problems.

I really don't see a problem w/ them coming here for work. I do see a problem w/ them taking from the entitlement programs. Just think if there was no minimum wage. American $20/hr undocumented foreigner $5/hr.

School for your kids covered by your taxes. Undocumented foreigner $35k/yr

Hospital cannot turn away an American citizen. Undocumented foreigner. Got a credit card?

Same solution.

Easier to implement
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Well, even EVERY if person voted against it it wouldn't have passed.

Just think, even EVERY if Obama wouldn't have flown those planes into those buildings we wouldn't be talking about this now.


If and butts were candy and nuts OJ would still be in the record books
All I can assume is that you did not read your own link.

Your Obama comment is just bizarre. Put the bottle down, pumpkin. It's time to stop. This post just doesn't make a lick of sense.
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I really don't see a problem w/ them coming here for work. I do see a problem w/ them taking from the entitlement programs. Just think if there was no minimum wage. American $20/hr undocumented foreigner $5/hr.

School for your kids covered by your taxes. Undocumented foreigner $35k/yr

Hospital cannot turn away an American citizen. Undocumented foreigner. Got a credit card?

Same solution.

Easier to implement
And then there will be plenty of jobs for the undocumented foreigners and the rest of us will be standing on the unemployment line. There won't be any tax dollars to pay for my kids school, not that they'll need an education anyway as there will be no jobs.
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