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Old July 3rd, 2018, 02:26 PM   #41
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First off, the guy who started this thread did it with the intention of bashing another religion. I'm giving him a taste of his own medicine, and he clearly doesn't like it. He also clearly doesn't like answering questions.

Regarding conversion at swordpoint, Clovis would tell another tale if he were alive today. Plus, the Bible contradicts itself relentlessly. It's not a coherent book by any means. Consider: the 10 Commandments says "Thou Shalt Not Kill". What's the first thing God says to the Israelites when they enter Canaan? Kill every man and boy, the women and girls "untouched by man" could be kept as concubines, wives, or slaves though. Boom, immediately contradicted itself.
If bashing Islam is incorrect, then point it out.

All your Christianity bashing represents is childish taunts of “I know you are but what am I ?”

Quit with the “look a distraction” and post on topic , or take it to appropriate thread.
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One is original, one is derivative. So you prefer the imitation?
Your opinion....like mine, means something only to you. You've decided you've found an explanation you like. Nothing more. I ain't a neophyte son.
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Old July 3rd, 2018, 02:28 PM   #43
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And we have restrictions about how we are to use them in the future. We don't just nuke a nation because they aren't Christian. But in Islam, nuclear weapons are mentioned in the Qur'an for using against non-muslim nations!
How can nuclear weapons be in the quaran when it was written several centuries ago?



I totally agree that islam is a worse religion than christianity, almost as bad as judaism, but all of them have no place in a modern educational system.

It was started by a pedophile warlord, what can you expect from such a religion.
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First off, the guy who started this thread did it with the intention of bashing another religion. I'm giving him a taste of his own medicine, and he clearly doesn't like it. He also clearly doesn't like answering questions.

Regarding conversion at swordpoint, Clovis would tell another tale if he were alive today. Plus, the Bible contradicts itself relentlessly. It's not a coherent book by any means. Consider: the 10 Commandments says "Thou Shalt Not Kill". What's the first thing God says to the Israelites when they enter Canaan? Kill every man and boy, the women and girls "untouched by man" could be kept as concubines, wives, or slaves though. Boom, immediately contradicted itself.
You sure love defending Islamic jihad. Nice to see how radical liberals have become. I doubt you are even reading anything posted here. You're a troll and a very bitter one.

Its thou shalt not kill means not to murder, but back in 1611 the word kill was understood as murder. The MEV is a modern English update of the KJV. Exo.20:13 says: "You shall not murder."

Now war is separate from the law. The wars of the Jews were fought in Israel and for Israel. Those wars have nothing to do with you or me. They were fought for tiny Israel, a nation the size of the State of New Hampshire. There was never given a command to war outside of Israel. But in Islam muslims are commanded to wage war against all nations. So your bigotry is making you look like a typical dumb liberal.
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Conversion under threat is in conflict with scripture in Christianity. Under Islam, different story.

Look, there are lots of threads on Christianity and you are free to start your own. Why not discuss Islam on a thread about Islam?
It appears a lot of christians were in conflict with scriptures and I know many still are.
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How can nuclear weapons be in the quaran when it was written several centuries ago?



I totally agree that islam is a worse religion than christianity, almost as bad as judaism, but all of them have no place in a modern educational system.

It was started by a pedophile warlord, what can you expect from such a religion.
First, Noah Webster was the great educator of America. His system of education rapidly made the U.S. the most educated nation in the world. That all changed of course when secular educators took over. Now we are last, followed only by Mexico.

Noah Webster encouraged all fields of education to teach from the Bible.

Secondly, the Muhsin Khan Noble Qur'an is the most popular English translation of the Qur'an. You can go to any Islamic bookstore online and see hordes of Muhsin Khan Noble Qur'ans for sale. They sell like hotcakes.

Noble Qur'an 8:60,

"And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war (tanks, planes, missiles, artillery) to threaten the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides whom, you may not know but whom Allah does know. And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly."
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It appears a lot of christians were in conflict with scriptures and I know many still are.
Yup and ANY Church that accepts the 503 C3 compromise is compromised and useless.
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Here is a corpus of translation on Qur'an 8:60. Take special note of the Muhsin Khan.

The Quranic Arabic Corpus - Translation

So since the Qur'an can be updated to incorporate modern warfare, including nuclear warfare against non-muslim nations, then Qur'an 8:17 (of the same chapter), which reads...

Noble Qur'an 8:17,

"You killed them not, but Allah killed them. And you (Muhammad) threw not when you did throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair trial from Him. Verily, Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower."

...can be modified to say,

"You killed them not, but Allah killed them. And you (Muslim) nuked not when you did nuke, but Allah nuked, that He might test the believers by a fair trial from Him. Verily, Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower."

And muslims are allowed to work the punishing hand of Allah. We Christians are forbidden to act out God's Judgement on mankind.

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It appears a lot of christians were in conflict with scriptures and I know many still are.
Yeah, well, I'm not. I've studied the doctrines from the 1st century. I know Christian teachings very good which is why I became an Anglican. When you study Christianity as well as I have you'll find out where the Catholics were right and where the Protestants were right. That quickly and rapidly leads one to the Anglican Catholic Church. For the ACC holds to the best doctrines of the RCC and the best of the Protestant Reformation. But most Christians do not study their faith deep enough to know these things
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Yeah, well, I'm not. I've studied the doctrines from the 1st century. I know Christian teachings very good which is why I became an Anglican. When you study Christianity as well as I have you'll find out where the Catholics were right and where the Protestants were right. That quickly and rapidly leads one to the Anglican Catholic Church. For the ACC holds to the best doctrines of the RCC and the best of the Protestant Reformation. But most Christians do not study their faith deep enough to know these things
Actually the eastern orthodox church is the closest one to the original teachings of that small jewish sect. Before Constanine decided that it is a good candidate to unify his empire.

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