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Old July 10th, 2018, 11:15 AM   #21
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There are right wing bigots and left wing bigots, but fortunately, despite the simplistic views of some on this forum, most people don't fall into this bifurcation.

I believe there are good people in the vast majority of the political spectrum who believe absolutely in tolerance.

I think when either group builds a wall around itself and claims the other side is somehow wrong or different, they have immediately lost the argument.
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Old July 10th, 2018, 11:51 AM   #22
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The nazis banned the Communist Party and all left wing parties in Germany, banned trade unions in workplaces/but allowed the capitalists...especially those in the arms industries to get even richer.....so tell me again: how was Nazi Germany a "leftwing" dictatorship?
Easy peasy. The first thing dictators do when taking control of any form of govt they wish to overthrow is destroy any competition. In some cases thats any relatives who would challenge for the crown. Or any political entity that would do the same. Coups are generally equal opportunity purgers. Nazis were socialists in nature. They developed programs to get the confidence and built many public works edifices to employ folks. FDR did the same thing, they were alike in that respect. The difference was motive. Nazi Germany was truly a "left wing" operation.
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So by that definition all dictatorships are left wing!!

The Nazis were not 'equal opportunity' at all. They got most of their support from the upper and middle classes.
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You certainly don't want a Liberal pointing out Liberal intolerance. That's un-sportsman-like. Rooting for the Liberal team must take precedence at all costs. Not looking at your faults is a major reason the Demorats are in serious trouble. And as long as they continue with their socialist views, it will not pass.


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Old July 10th, 2018, 01:53 PM   #25
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You certainly don't want a Liberal pointing out Liberal intolerance. That's un-sportsman-like. Rooting for the Liberal team must take precedence at all costs. Not looking at your faults is a major reason the Demorats are in serious trouble. And as long as they continue with their socialist views, it will not pass.
my question is, when did the center become liberal?
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I could follow u sideways into this canard, and attempt to educate u how nazi Germany was a left wing dictatorship, but I think Iíll just go with long standing internet tradition and point out: the first one to mention Nazis or Hitler loses the argument.
Kind of a stupid response in many ways.

1. The idea that Nazism is a left wing anything ignores the essence of history, and even the modern Nazi/White Supremacist movement. Right winger try ot use the word "socialist" in the term Nazi as an example of Hitlers "socialist" ideology. Of course, under that standard the USSR was a "socialist" State as is China.

2. Pointing out the obvious does not lose one an argument save in the mind of the one that has no argument.
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Easy peasy. The first thing dictators do when taking control of any form of govt they wish to overthrow is destroy any competition. In some cases thats any relatives who would challenge for the crown. Or any political entity that would do the same. Coups are generally equal opportunity purgers. Nazis were socialists in nature. They developed programs to get the confidence and built many public works edifices to employ folks. FDR did the same thing, they were alike in that respect. The difference was motive. Nazi Germany was truly a "left wing" operation.
You actually destroyed your own argument, and ignorantly so.

"The first thing dictators do when taking control of any form of govt they wish to overthrow is destroy any competition. "

Using a certain method to destroy the "enemy" does not make you one of them. This is kind of like calling al Queda "liberal" because they have programs for the poor, build schools, and hospitals, etc.
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my question is, when did the center become liberal?
When the GOP got in bed with the preachers.

I voted Republican most of my life. They were fiscally conservative but socially progressive. But some where along the line they got in bed with the Christian right and have given up any and all progressiveness. They've actually turned regressive. They've moved steadily further and further right. Those that have tried to keep the old flame alive are now called RINO and risk losing party support if they don't toe the party line. Today anyone to the left of Genghis Khan is a damned liberal socialist commie bastard !!!
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there are people all over the political spectrum. I think most people are content not knowing or caring about politics. But leftists are real. They claim tolerance. they are self-righteous. They allow no dissent.
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When the GOP got in bed with the preachers.

I voted Republican most of my life. They were fiscally conservative but socially progressive. But some where along the line they got in bed with the Christian right and have given up any and all progressiveness. They've actually turned regressive. They've moved steadily further and further right. Those that have tried to keep the old flame alive are now called RINO and risk losing party support if they don't toe the party line. Today anyone to the left of Genghis Khan is a damned liberal socialist commie bastard !!!
That would be after Row v Wade was ruled on and abortion became legal throughout the USA, a few years after the RW lost the "Civil Rights" battle. The South was so racist and hateful that the "democrats" there immediately switched to GOP and the South turned red overnight because "good" southern folks didn't like the idea of black people getting equal treatment. The RW needed another pet cause to rally the morons in our society. Rowe vs Wade gave them that opportunity.

I highly recommend a book called "Republican Gomorrah". It explains the rise of fake RW christianity in some detail and how the RW's racist battle against Civil Rights morphed into phony RW piety.
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