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Old July 17th, 2008, 09:54 AM   #1
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China vs. U.S. Who's the Boss?

China says to the U.S.: "No arms for Taiwan!"



U.S. responds: "Okey Dokey, you'se da boss..."



The Raw Story | US imposes arms sales freeze on Taiwan
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China says to the U.S.: "No arms for Taiwan!"



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The Raw Story | US imposes arms sales freeze on Taiwan


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Sometimes I feel like I am the only one who sees what the world is coming to, and is not ok with it...
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I don't understand, why is freezing US arms sales to Taiwan a bad thing? And, why do you think it is a bad thing, especially since you are a self-described Ron Paul supporter (who if President, would do much more than just freeze the supply of military equipment to foreign states let alone be involved in other countries' internal affairs)?
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I don't understand, why is freezing US arms sales to Taiwan a bad thing? And, why do you think it is a bad thing, especially since you are a self-described Ron Paul supporter (who if President, would do much more than just freeze the supply of military equipment to foreign states let alone be involved in other countries' internal affairs)?


Oh I don't think the freezing of arms sales to Taiwan is a bad thing, I think doing it at the behest of China is... If we are going to sell arms to a country, I prefer it be a country like Taiwan.



Believe me, I am firmly against the military industrial complex. I believe that it is the root cause of our down fall.
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Oh I don't think the freezing of arms sales to Taiwan is a bad thing, I think doing it at the behest of China is... If we are going to sell arms to a country, I prefer it be a country like Taiwan.



Believe me, I am firmly against the military industrial complex. I believe that it is the root cause of our down fall.


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Public Papers of the Presidents, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1960, p. 1035- 1040



My fellow Americans:



Three days from now, after half a century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor.



This evening I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen.



Like every other citizen, I wish the new President, and all who will labor with him, Godspeed. I pray that the coming years will be blessed with peace and prosperity for all.



Our people expect their President and the Congress to find essential agreement on issues of great moment, the wise resolution of which will better shape the future of the Nation.



My own relations with the Congress, which began on a remote and tenuous basis when, long ago, a member of the Senate appointed me to West Point, have since ranged to the intimate during the war and immediate post-war period, and, finally, to the mutually interdependent during these past eight years.



In this final relationship, the Congress and the Administration have, on most vital issues, cooperated well, to serve the national good rather than mere partisanship, and so have assured that the business of the Nation should go forward. So, my official relationship with the Congress ends in a feeling, on my part, of gratitude that we have been able to do so much together.


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No matter what people say to criticise America, if there is only going to be one military Superpower then thank God it's the USA.
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No matter what people say to criticise America, if there is only going to be one military Superpower then thank God it's the USA.
I could not agree more, but the problem is how much long will remain so?



The way our economy is heading we may soon look more like Mexico than the U.S. of the 80's. We need to wake up and get smart to the real world.
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I could not agree more, but the problem is how much long will remain so?



The way our economy is heading we may soon look more like Mexico than the U.S. of the 80's. We need to wake up and get smart to the real world.


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Athena, I had no idea how much I'd need her

In peaceful times I hold her close and I feed her

My heart starts palpitating when I think my guess was wrong

But I think I'll get along

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She's just a girl - she's a bomb



Athena, all I ever want to do is please her

My life has been so settled and she's the reason

Just one word from her and my troubles are long gone

But I think I'll get along

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Just a girl just a girl

Just a girl just a girl

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She's just a girl



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It felt like one of those flattened ants you find on a crazy path

I'd have topped myself to give her time she didn't need to ask

Was I a suicidal psychopath?

She's just a girl - she's a bomb

She's just a girl - she's a bomb



Consumed, there was a beautiful white horse I saw on a dream stage

He had a snake the size of a sewer pipe living in his rib cage

I felt like a pickled priest who was being flambed

You got me requisitioned blondie

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I'm happy, I'm ecstatic

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Athena, you picked me up by my lapels and screamed "leave her"

I felt like waking up in heaven on an empty meter

And now you're stuck with a castrated leader

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Athena, I had no idea how much I need her

My life has been so settled and she's the reason

Just one word from her and my troubles are long gone

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I' m a filipino and I say that USA is the boss over China. If China were a superpower than USA, they' d just spread communism out! Well of coarse I want my nation to be a super power to
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Oh I don't think the freezing of arms sales to Taiwan is a bad thing, I think doing it at the behest of China is... If we are going to sell arms to a country, I prefer it be a country like Taiwan.



Believe me, I am firmly against the military industrial complex. I believe that it is the root cause of our down fall.


Where is the logic in that? If the so-called military industrial complex (MIC) will is the root cause of the US down fall, then why give it an oportunity to stay alive by giving it access to a market where it can make a profit.



Is the MIC working for US interests? No, it's working for its own- and for Zionist interests.



Someone else here points at the debt the US has. The US only has ONE possible way to repay China: By destroying its own economy at the expence of its own people living in poverty for generations to come. .....Which reminds me:







Thomas Jefferson once said: "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] . . . will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson -- The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill, (1809)



Isnt that exactly what has happened? I would also reccomend you read my signature. It's not as if the US is alone regarding these matters.



In short: The international bankers are using Zionism as a means to total control of the entire planet.



Can you say New World Order?



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Yes! It's spelled "New World Order" but the pronunciation varies with location. In the North American continent, it's pronounced, United States of America. In the Far East it's correct to pronounce it China or Japan. In Europe we like to say, European Union or Russian Federation.



But, make no mistake, it's the New World Order. Papa Bush got all excited about this back during Gulf War One.
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Yes! It's spelled "New World Order" but the pronunciation varies with location. In the North American continent, it's pronounced, United States of America. In the Far East it's correct to pronounce it China or Japan. In Europe we like to say, European Union or Russian Federation.



But, make no mistake, it's the New World Order. Papa Bush got all excited about this back during Gulf War One.




Yes, he did. On the tent aniversary of the day that he spoke to his master and said: "You shall have your new world order", the event that put the agenda on a fast track happened.



Those people are really hung up on dates, you know(?).
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How could be say that who is the boss. Its tough. For being treated as a boss you need to show that you can sperately survive in any situation but its not like that. There is not any nation which is here to admit that they are still enough to manage their survival in any worst situation. If we talk about US and China then yeah! can say that they are strong enough but they also need supports from one another...
Anyhow, thank you for discussing on this topics, of course its good to put our separate views.

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I could not agree more, but the problem is how much long will remain so?



The way our economy is heading we may soon look more like Mexico than the U.S. of the 80's. We need to wake up and get smart to the real world.
As long as Obama insists on spending $1 trillion more year over year and China is our creditor, then they will be calling the shots. Not to mention what would happen if they not only stopped buying US Dollars but also dumped the $2 trillion they already have it would wreck our economy.
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As long as Obama insists on spending $1 trillion more year over year and China is our creditor, then they will be calling the shots. Not to mention what would happen if they not only stopped buying US Dollars but also dumped the $2 trillion they already have it would wreck our economy.
The President of the United States cannot legislate nor insist on spending. Congress does.
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The President of the United States cannot legislate nor insist on spending. Congress does.
The spending process starts when the POTUS submits his budget to Congress when he insists on spending for what he wants.
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The spending process starts when the POTUS submits his budget to Congress when he insists on spending for what he wants.
So you Righties blame the man for sequestration but now say he insists on spending. The latest budget was negotiated by Paul Ryan and Patty Murray and passed by both Houses of Congress. Civics 101 .
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