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Old February 26th, 2012, 03:48 PM   #1
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"All that is necessary, as it seems to me, to convince any reasonable person that the Bible is simply and purely of human invention of barbarian invention is to read it. Read it as you would any other book; think of it as you would of any other; get the bandage of reverence from your eyes; drive from your heart the phantom of fear; push from the throne of your brain the coiled form of superstition then read the Holy Bible, and you will be amazed that you ever, for one moment, supposed a being of infinite wisdom, goodness and purity, to be the author of such ignorance and of such atrocity." - Robert Green Ingersoll



This is a fancier way of saying something that I heard from Penn Jillette (of Penn and Teller fame) from his television show "Bullsh!t"



"Whatever you do don't the Bible for a moral code. It advocates prejudice, cruelty, superstition and murder. Read it because we need more atheists and nothing will get you there faster than reading the damn Bible."
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Old February 27th, 2012, 05:02 PM   #2
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"Faith is believing something you know ain't true." - Mark Twain



If you KNOW something is true, then you don't need faith....if you DON'T KNOW that it's true....then why do you believe it?
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Old February 27th, 2012, 06:08 PM   #3
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It's notable that some atheists have a compulsive need to evangelize and demonize, the idea that I "elevate" myself by pushing someone else down.



This thread offers a prime example of the principle. And as usual, the Bible is in the crosshairs.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 06:32 PM   #4
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It's notable that some atheists have a compulsive need to evangelize and demonize, the idea that I "elevate" myself by pushing someone else down.



This thread offers a prime example of the principle. And as usual, the Bible is in the crosshairs.


No demonization, I am presenting quotes from others and their veiws on atheism. I have not said a thing about those that believe. I find it funny that you can criticize any belief a person may hold except their religious one. Why is religion exempt from criticism?
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Old February 27th, 2012, 06:39 PM   #5
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"Faith is believing something you know ain't true." - Mark Twain



If you KNOW something is true, then you don't need faith....if you DON'T KNOW that it's true....then why do you believe it?


Faith cannot be excised out of a person's overall mental state.



Do you know you'll wake up tomorrow morning? When you get in your car, do you know you'll arrive safely at your destination? When you get in an elevator, do you know the cable won't break?



Human beings regularly practice faith. It's a bridge over life's unpredictable waters.
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Old February 27th, 2012, 06:45 PM   #6
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It's notable that some atheists have a compulsive need to evangelize and demonize, the idea that I "elevate" myself by pushing someone else down.



This thread offers a prime example of the principle. And as usual, the Bible is in the crosshairs.


No demonization, I am presenting quotes from others and their veiws on atheism. I have not said a thing about those that believe. I find it funny that you can criticize any belief a person may hold except their religious one. Why is religion exempt from criticism?


Your quotes are atheistic evangelizing, and demonization.



You're not posting anything that you don't believe. You can stop laughing now because I am an equal opportunity criticizer of theism and atheism.



Atheism can be criticized too, right?
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Old February 27th, 2012, 08:07 PM   #7
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No demonization, I am presenting quotes from others and their veiws on atheism. I have not said a thing about those that believe. I find it funny that you can criticize any belief a person may hold except their religious one. Why is religion exempt from criticism?


this is a common gripe of mine too. you can challenge someones political views, or their attitudes to global warming, or beleifs about parenting, but as soon as you challenge their religion you are being offensive.



also, when you do challenge someones politics, or climate change ideas, or parenting, it is expected that they will have an answer and defend their position. if they just say "i believe it because i have faith" it isnt good enough for anyone. but that same non- answer seems to be good enough for religion.
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No demonization, I am presenting quotes from others and their veiws on atheism. I have not said a thing about those that believe. I find it funny that you can criticize any belief a person may hold except their religious one. Why is religion exempt from criticism?


this is a common gripe of mine too. you can challenge someones political views, or their attitudes to global warming, or beleifs about parenting, but as soon as you challenge their religion you are being offensive.



also, when you do challenge someones politics, or climate change ideas, or parenting, it is expected that they will have an answer and defend their position. if they just say "i believe it because i have faith" it isnt good enough for anyone. but that same non- answer seems to be good enough for religion.


When peoples' politics, climate change ideas, or parenting are challenged, oftentimes the one being challenged will view the challenge as offensive, to lesser or greater degrees. Religion is no different.
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"Atheism is a religion the same way that celibacy is a sexual position".

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Someone asked W. C. Fields on his death bed why he was reading the bible since he was an athiest. Fields said....."I'm looking for loopholes."
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