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Old March 6th, 2012, 03:28 AM   #1
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Atheism = despair



1) If you believe the universe is a random mess, and humans are just a collection of chemicals, and your loved ones' lives may be extinguished forever at any moment - obviously you will be depressed.



Here's Bertrand Russell, one of history's most prominent atheists: That man is the product of causes which had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling can preserve an individual life beyond the grave; that all the labours of all the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the whole temple of man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins ó all these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand.



Wow - lighten up! lol

2) Christianity offers a noble purpose and a supportive community.



Religion 'linked to happy life'

quote: Data from thousands of Europeans revealed higher levels of "life satisfaction" in believers.



Look at the substitutes chosen by atheists to replace Jesus' message of forgiveness, kindness, and human dignity: Marxism, Fascism, Randian Objectivism, Utilitarianism, superstition - none possess any merit.

3) Religious Affiliation and Suicide Attempt



quote: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation.

The high suicide nations are also the atheist-prone nations. Meanwhile the low suicide nations are religious.



4) Report from the Mayo Clinic on December 11, 2001: In an article also published in this issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings, Mayo Clinic researchers reviewed published studies, meta-analyses, systematic reviews and subject reviews that examined the association between religious involvement and spirituality and physical health, mental health, health-related quality of life and other health outcomes.

The authors report a majority of the nearly 350 studies of physical health and 850 studies of mental health that have used religious and spiritual variables have found that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes.



Check out this article:http: Are religious people healthier than nonreligious people?



Even skeptics must acknowledge the facts: Evidence that Religious People are Healthier and Happier



5) Worldwide the atheist faith, never very successful, is in sharp decline. Atheist-prone nations in the West are precisely those with sagging birthrates. The majority of the world's atheists are in China and China is experiencing a religious boomdespite the brutality of the CCP elite. I think the realization that their faith is dying will push some atheists toward despair.



quote regarding the global atheist population: Atheists will drop precipitously from 3.7% to 2.8%



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Atheism naturally leads to emptiness, over-compensation, desperation, boredom, isolation, Narcissism, even suicide.

Misery loves company and many atheists seem to derive a cheap thrill from trying to take away other people's happiness. Spite is the foundation of the atheist movement built by the media bosses.
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Hogwash!



No god(s)? No afterlife?



Better live life to its fullest! Suck the sweet marrow while you can 'cause you won't be gettin' any pie in the sky.
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Are all theists as psychologically insecure as Slippery Fish?
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Atheism = despair



Atheism naturally leads to emptiness, over-compensation, desperation, boredom, isolation, Narcissism, even suicide.

Misery loves company and many atheists seem to derive a cheap thrill from trying to take away other people's happiness. Spite is the foundation of the atheist movement created by the media bosses.




So true, and evidenced by most of the devout atheists I have ever encountered.
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Better live life to its fullest!
When you are terrified that every breath may be your last - your end for all eternity?! More likely you'll be paralyzed with fear.
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Better live life to its fullest!
When you are terrified that every breath may be your last - your end for all eternity?! More likely you'll be paralyzed with fear.


Uh, more likely Iím not. You are projecting.



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The Church of the Apathetic Agnostic We Donít Know And We Donít Care
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I love it! These two items were on point:



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2. If there is a Supreme Being, then that being appears to act as if apathetic to events in our universe.

All events in our Universe, including its beginning[1], can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being. Thus, if there is indeed a God, then that god has had no more impact than no god at all. To all appearances, any purported Supreme Being is indifferent to our Universe and to its inhabitants.



3. We are apathetic to the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Being.

If there is a God, and that God does not appear to care, then there is no reason to concern ourselves with whether or not a Supreme Being exists, nor should we have any interest in satisfying the purported needs of that Supreme Being. However, our apathy to the question of God's existence does not necessarily mean we are apathetic about promoting agnosticism.
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The Church of the Apathetic Agnostic We Donít Know And We Donít Care


I love it! These two items were on point:



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2. If there is a Supreme Being, then that being appears to act as if apathetic to events in our universe.

All events in our Universe, including its beginning[1], can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being. Thus, if there is indeed a God, then that god has had no more impact than no god at all. To all appearances, any purported Supreme Being is indifferent to our Universe and to its inhabitants.



3. We are apathetic to the existence or nonexistence of a Supreme Being.

If there is a God, and that God does not appear to care, then there is no reason to concern ourselves with whether or not a Supreme Being exists, nor should we have any interest in satisfying the purported needs of that Supreme Being. However, our apathy to the question of God's existence does not necessarily mean we are apathetic about promoting agnosticism.


"All events in our Universe, including its beginning[1], can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being...."



That's on a par with talking snakes and a virgin birth. Correctly stated, "All events in our Universe, up to its beginning[1], can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being." That's a correct statement. The beginning cannot be explained. What led to the beginning cannot be explained.



No explanation for the origin of the universe is known. "All events in our Universe, including its beginning[1], can be explained with or without the existence of a Supreme Being...." is a statement of faith, wholly without supporting empirical evidence.



Some agnostics and atheists have a powerful faith in their beliefs, right or wrong, evidence or no evidence, and have the audacity to claim that atheism or agnosticism is "more rational." It's no more rational than talking snakes and virgin births.
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Hogwash!



No god(s)? No afterlife?



Better live life to its fullest! Suck the sweet marrow while you can 'cause you won't be gettin' any pie in the sky.


Not only that, I find a lot more atheists who do good for people without others knowing it because they aren't in it for the reward, they are in it because they feel it's the right thing to do.



Religious people won't lift a hand to help someone UNLESS they think it will get them points..that's not a heart focused on good, that a heart focused on rewards...like an animal who performs.



Also, atheists take responsibility for their actions. They own their lives. For religous groups it's either "The devil made me do it" or "It was God's will." They NEVER own even their own life. Religious people pass the buck and responsibility for their actions to other beings.
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Hogwash!



No god(s)? No afterlife?



Better live life to its fullest! Suck the sweet marrow while you can 'cause you won't be gettin' any pie in the sky.


Not only that, I find a lot more atheists who do good for people without others knowing it because they aren't in it for the reward, they are in it because they feel it's the right thing to do.



Religious people won't lift a hand to help someone UNLESS they think it will get them points..that's not a heart focused on good, that a heart focused on rewards...like an animal who performs.



Also, atheists take responsibility for their actions. They own their lives. For religous groups it's either "The devil made me do it" or "It was God's will." They NEVER own even their own life. Religious people pass the buck and responsibility for their actions to other beings.




You love those swingeing generalisations doncha!
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