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Old August 16th, 2015, 05:42 PM   #1
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I think its realy lol funny how god who made all that exist
then man comes along and makes up the word science and today science is
supposed to explain all as if science created all.
science is discovery and learning. we already had that from day one and after cane to this day. discovery and learning. and the real funny part is
we all think it was science that made something to be when it was already
created with the earth. what makes your computer work was already there
to find by learning. now I got a question if you can answer it

where did everything come from if science did not create it
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I think its realy lol funny how god who made all that exist
then man comes along and makes up the word science and today science is
supposed to explain all as if science created all.
science is discovery and learning. we already had that from day one and after cane to this day. discovery and learning. and the real funny part is
we all think it was science that made something to be when it was already
created with the earth. what makes your computer work was already there
to find by learning. now I got a question if you can answer it

where did everything come from if science did not create it
In its purest essence, science describes how God's natural laws work.

No schism exists between spirit and science. To put spirit and science at odds with each other is a mistake.

Science cannot explain where everything came from, nor does it pretend to do so.
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one of the major differences between science and religion is that the scientist is happy to say "i dont know" without then saying "but god does".

also, science is edging closer to being able to explain where everything came from. it wouldnt be a first, there have been plenty of times people have said something is 'beyond explanation' only for scientists to later provide an explanation.
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one of the major differences between science and religion is that the scientist is happy to say "i dont know" without then saying "but god does".

also, science is edging closer to being able to explain where everything came from. it wouldnt be a first, there have been plenty of times people have said something is 'beyond explanation' only for scientists to later provide an explanation.
The scientist is happy to say, "I don't know," but then adds as you just did, "...there have been plenty of times people have said something is 'beyond explanation' only for scientists to later provide an explanation."

Iow, hang on, one day we'll know what we don't know, something like going to heaven and having your questions answered.

I truly disagree that science is edging closer to explaining the origin of the energy of the Big Bang. I scour the web for anything cosmological. I don't know to what you're referring. Please share what you know.
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The scientist is happy to say, "I don't know," but then adds as you just did, "...there have been plenty of times people have said something is 'beyond explanation' only for scientists to later provide an explanation."

Iow, hang on, one day we'll know what we don't know, something like going to heaven and having your questions answered.

I truly disagree that science is edging closer to explaining the origin of the energy of the Big Bang. I scour the web for anything cosmological. I don't know to what you're referring. Please share what you know.
But you say asking where the entity that you ascribe all those things to came from is silly. That seems like a contradiction to me. Is that different? The atheists say science will answer. You are saying it was "god". Both are unprovable.
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But you say asking where the entity that you ascribe all those things to came from is silly. That seems like a contradiction to me. Is that different? The atheists say science will answer. You are saying it was "god". Both are unprovable.
Also, over the course of recorded history, the scientific method (even before it was called that) has been the ONLY source of answers to questions about the universe around us.

Conversely religion has provided NO testable or proven answers and, in many cases where it claims to have had the answers, it has proven to be wrong. Furthermore religion attempts to hide this dismal record by claiming that such things are "unknowable".

Religion doesn't look for answers, it claims to have the answers and then when pushed for explanations of the answers claims that not only do they not have the explanations but that such explanations are impossible.
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But you say asking where the entity that you ascribe all those things to came from is silly. That seems like a contradiction to me. Is that different? The atheists say science will answer. You are saying it was "god". Both are unprovable.
I absolutely don't say that asking where the entity that I ascribe "all those things to come from" is silly. People ask who made God, and I say that I don't know. That's because I don't know.

I don't play the either/or game here. I've stated plainly: I see no schism between "spirit," whatever that is essentially, and materialist science.

And, I don't place firm confidence in the concept that every question regarding the origin and order of the universe will ultimately succumb to empiricism. I lean strongly toward phenomenalism.

Putting aside a phenomenalist view honestly seems impossible. Imo.
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Also, over the course of recorded history, the scientific method (even before it was called that) has been the ONLY source of answers to questions about the universe around us.

Conversely religion has provided NO testable or proven answers and, in many cases where it claims to have had the answers, it has proven to be wrong. Furthermore religion attempts to hide this dismal record by claiming that such things are "unknowable".

Religion doesn't look for answers, it claims to have the answers and then when pushed for explanations of the answers claims that not only do they not have the explanations but that such explanations are impossible.
Yes Nwolfe, religion sucks.

And yes, over the course of recorded history, the scientific method (even before it was called that) has been the ONLY reliable source of answers to questions about the ongoing physical interactions in material universe around us.
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Also, over the course of recorded history, the scientific method (even before it was called that) has been the ONLY source of answers to questions about the universe around us.

Conversely religion has provided NO testable or proven answers and, in many cases where it claims to have had the answers, it has proven to be wrong. Furthermore religion attempts to hide this dismal record by claiming that such things are "unknowable".

Religion doesn't look for answers, it claims to have the answers and then when pushed for explanations of the answers claims that not only do they not have the explanations but that such explanations are impossible.
what about emotions
sad happy sorry greef and on
you cant touch it you cant feel it like you can feel other things
but you do feel it. its not like something you can see or touch.
its not physical.. we are born with it
its not Psychological.. and what about reasoning.
logic. it all cimes from the central nervous system. right..?
in order for that to be true we must have it in us even befor we are born. right??
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