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Old October 11th, 2011, 09:03 AM   #1
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So say that the economy is getting bad, and we could be heading for another recession.



With this in mind, how would you fix these things and bring us out of this slumber party?
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First off, I would recall all the soldiers from overseas out of the middle east and cease any and all financial support to Pakistan, among other third world nations that squander that aid rather than using it for what it was intended for.



Second, I would reduce all federal employee salaries to corporate/national market levels, for there is no need or rational sense for a janitor (for example) working in a federal office earning a six figure salary when the average janitor in any corporate office earns half (if not less) than that.



Third, I would review all government contracts with private contractors to ensure we're not overpaying for their services (the old $100 for a tiolet seat when they're only $20 at Target example).



Fourth, I would fully fund ICE and the border patrol to deport and keep the illegals out, thereby lowering the various and numerous financial burdens they place on Americans ( California is bankrupt because of their illegal alien problem)!



Fifth, I would rescind tax exemptions on religious organizations. There is no need for them to not be paying taxes, especially when they harbor criminals and get involved in the political affairs of this nation.



Sixth, I would reduce the Capital Gains Tax and increase corporate profit taxes (this is aimed at oil and other energy giants that manipulate the markets for their gain at our expense).



Seventh, no more borrowing from social security...those accounts would be replenished to the levels they should be at today.



Eighth, I would back the GAO in investigating all grants, stimulus programs, etc. To ensure funds are being properly granted and getting back something from that investment (e.g. job creation). If anything nefarious is found, those funds would cease and the organization and any individuals would be held accountable and funds recovered by any means.



Ninth, establish a flat income tax across the board so everyone is paying the same and not some more or less than others based on income, class or any other status.



Last but not least (I could go on, but these are the first ten things that came to mind), I would fire anyone and everyone appointment by Obama and previous presidents and appoint only proven qualified individuals to replace them at a fair market salary rate.



Oh, one more thing, as President I would refuse my salary and have it donated to military organizations supporting programs helping our wounded warriors adjust and cope with their return home.
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First off, I would recall all the soldiers from overseas out of the middle east and cease any and all financial support to Pakistan, among other third world nations that squander that aid rather than using it for what it was intended for.



Second, I would reduce all federal employee salaries to corporate/national market levels, for there is no need or rational sense for a janitor (for example) working in a federal office earning a six figure salary when the average janitor in any corporate office earns half (if not less) than that.



Third, I would review all government contracts with private contractors to ensure we're not overpaying for their services (the old $100 for a tiolet seat when they're only $20 at Target example).



Fourth, I would fully fund ICE and the border patrol to deport and keep the illegals out, thereby lowering the various and numerous financial burdens they place on Americans ( California is bankrupt because of their illegal alien problem)!



Fifth, I would rescind tax exemptions on religious organizations. There is no need for them to not be paying taxes, especially when they harbor criminals and get involved in the political affairs of this nation.



Sixth, I would reduce the Capital Gains Tax and increase corporate profit taxes (this is aimed at oil and other energy giants that manipulate the markets for their gain at our expense).



Seventh, no more borrowing from social security...those accounts would be replenished to the levels they should be at today.



Eighth, I would back the GAO in investigating all grants, stimulus programs, etc. To ensure funds are being properly granted and getting back something from that investment (e.g. job creation). If anything nefarious is found, those funds would cease and the organization and any individuals would be held accountable and funds recovered by any means.



Ninth, establish a flat income tax across the board so everyone is paying the same and not some more or less than others based on income, class or any other status.



Last but not least (I could go on, but these are the first ten things that came to mind), I would fire anyone and everyone appointment by Obama and previous presidents and appoint only proven qualified individuals to replace them at a fair market salary rate.



Oh, one more thing, as President I would refuse my salary and have it donated to military organizations supporting programs helping our wounded warriors adjust and cope with their return home.


Okay, some good points there. Thanks.
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Things are so bad I WOULDNT EVEN WANNA CONSIDER THAT THOUGHT!
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Things are so bad I WOULDNT EVEN WANNA CONSIDER THAT THOUGHT!


In other words, you wouldn't want to be president? Be careful what you wish for, pal. You might get it.
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First off, I would recall all the soldiers from overseas out of the middle east and cease any and all financial support to Pakistan, among other third world nations that squander that aid rather than using it for what it was intended for.



Second, I would reduce all federal employee salaries to corporate/national market levels, for there is no need or rational sense for a janitor (for example) working in a federal office earning a six figure salary when the average janitor in any corporate office earns half (if not less) than that.



Third, I would review all government contracts with private contractors to ensure we're not overpaying for their services (the old $100 for a tiolet seat when they're only $20 at Target example).



Fourth, I would fully fund ICE and the border patrol to deport and keep the illegals out, thereby lowering the various and numerous financial burdens they place on Americans ( California is bankrupt because of their illegal alien problem)!



Fifth, I would rescind tax exemptions on religious organizations. There is no need for them to not be paying taxes, especially when they harbor criminals and get involved in the political affairs of this nation.



Sixth, I would reduce the Capital Gains Tax and increase corporate profit taxes (this is aimed at oil and other energy giants that manipulate the markets for their gain at our expense).



Seventh, no more borrowing from social security...those accounts would be replenished to the levels they should be at today.



Eighth, I would back the GAO in investigating all grants, stimulus programs, etc. To ensure funds are being properly granted and getting back something from that investment (e.g. job creation). If anything nefarious is found, those funds would cease and the organization and any individuals would be held accountable and funds recovered by any means.



Ninth, establish a flat income tax across the board so everyone is paying the same and not some more or less than others based on income, class or any other status.



Last but not least (I could go on, but these are the first ten things that came to mind), I would fire anyone and everyone appointment by Obama and previous presidents and appoint only proven qualified individuals to replace them at a fair market salary rate.



Oh, one more thing, as President I would refuse my salary and have it donated to military organizations supporting programs helping our wounded warriors adjust and cope with their return home.


Congratulations, you just killed our economy. He said “FIX” our economy, not destroy it.
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First off, I would recall all the soldiers from overseas out of the middle east and cease any and all financial support to Pakistan, among other third world nations that squander that aid rather than using it for what it was intended for.



Second, I would reduce all federal employee salaries to corporate/national market levels, for there is no need or rational sense for a janitor (for example) working in a federal office earning a six figure salary when the average janitor in any corporate office earns half (if not less) than that.



Third, I would review all government contracts with private contractors to ensure we're not overpaying for their services (the old $100 for a tiolet seat when they're only $20 at Target example).



Fourth, I would fully fund ICE and the border patrol to deport and keep the illegals out, thereby lowering the various and numerous financial burdens they place on Americans ( California is bankrupt because of their illegal alien problem)!



Fifth, I would rescind tax exemptions on religious organizations. There is no need for them to not be paying taxes, especially when they harbor criminals and get involved in the political affairs of this nation.



Sixth, I would reduce the Capital Gains Tax and increase corporate profit taxes (this is aimed at oil and other energy giants that manipulate the markets for their gain at our expense).



Seventh, no more borrowing from social security...those accounts would be replenished to the levels they should be at today.



Eighth, I would back the GAO in investigating all grants, stimulus programs, etc. To ensure funds are being properly granted and getting back something from that investment (e.g. job creation). If anything nefarious is found, those funds would cease and the organization and any individuals would be held accountable and funds recovered by any means.



Ninth, establish a flat income tax across the board so everyone is paying the same and not some more or less than others based on income, class or any other status.



Last but not least (I could go on, but these are the first ten things that came to mind), I would fire anyone and everyone appointment by Obama and previous presidents and appoint only proven qualified individuals to replace them at a fair market salary rate.



Oh, one more thing, as President I would refuse my salary and have it donated to military organizations supporting programs helping our wounded warriors adjust and cope with their return home.


Congratulations, you just killed our economy. He said “FIX” our economy, not destroy it.


Nice, Fayt.
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Fayt, you're an ignoramus who hasn't the faintest clue about economics on any level.



Peddle your ignorant tripe elsewhere you little twit!
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What's with all that name calling and no substantive refutation of the point?



Oh yeah, that's right. It's another defeated position and all that's left is to behave like a spoiled child. Same old, same old.
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What's with all that name calling and no substantive refutation of the point?


Learned from the best...you!!!



Same BS can be said for Fayt's response! No substantive refutation of any point at all...just an unsubstantiated asinine one liner.



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Oh yeah, that's right. It's another defeated position and all that's left is to behave like a spoiled child. Same old, same old.


Talkin about yourself again? Tisk tisk...
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Fayt, your understanding of economic principles is vast and deep.



Kind of like GWV's ego.
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Fayt, your understanding of economic principles is vast and deep.


Yeah, knee deep in a vast and endless pond of shit!!!



Speaking of which, how's the smell with your nose being so far up her arse!!!??!!!
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YOU LEAVE WAITINGTABLES ALONE. GWV, where has your economic ideals been tried? Has it worked? Please answer my question and lets have a grand good old discussion. Then we'll see who really knows what they're talking about.
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I will not leave that bitch alone, and your post Is just further proof of what an ignoramus you are!!



Talk about a lack of reading comprehension skills!!! The OP is set up as a hypothetical question; the answer to which isn't about whether or not those answers have been tried, when, where and/or whether or not they were successful.



Get an education, learn how to read and respond with a cogent reply before coming back at me with your juvenile bantering you sniveling little naive pain in DTT's ass !
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First off, I would recall all the soldiers from overseas out of the middle east and cease any and all financial support to Pakistan, among other third world nations that squander that aid rather than using it for what it was intended for.



Second, I would reduce all federal employee salaries to corporate/national market levels, for there is no need or rational sense for a janitor (for example) working in a federal office earning a six figure salary when the average janitor in any corporate office earns half (if not less) than that.



Third, I would review all government contracts with private contractors to ensure we're not overpaying for their services (the old $100 for a tiolet seat when they're only $20 at Target example).



Fourth, I would fully fund ICE and the border patrol to deport and keep the illegals out, thereby lowering the various and numerous financial burdens they place on Americans ( California is bankrupt because of their illegal alien problem)!



Fifth, I would rescind tax exemptions on religious organizations. There is no need for them to not be paying taxes, especially when they harbor criminals and get involved in the political affairs of this nation.



Sixth, I would reduce the Capital Gains Tax and increase corporate profit taxes (this is aimed at oil and other energy giants that manipulate the markets for their gain at our expense).



Seventh, no more borrowing from social security...those accounts would be replenished to the levels they should be at today.



Eighth, I would back the GAO in investigating all grants, stimulus programs, etc. To ensure funds are being properly granted and getting back something from that investment (e.g. job creation). If anything nefarious is found, those funds would cease and the organization and any individuals would be held accountable and funds recovered by any means.



Ninth, establish a flat income tax across the board so everyone is paying the same and not some more or less than others based on income, class or any other status.



Last but not least (I could go on, but these are the first ten things that came to mind), I would fire anyone and everyone appointment by Obama and previous presidents and appoint only proven qualified individuals to replace them at a fair market salary rate.



Oh, one more thing, as President I would refuse my salary and have it donated to military organizations supporting programs helping our wounded warriors adjust and cope with their return home.
Not bad. Not bad a'tall
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Yes, but I would hope that we could keep the insults to a minimum on this thread. Especially the bickering between you and the ladies. That said, I am going to let the thread originator (William) tell me if I need to close the thread.
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If it gets overheated, PN, you have my blessing to close it. I don't like to see any more insults. They have no place anywhere. Hell is the best place for it (of course the devil would know just what to do). And I have seen way too many, even in other threads.
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I will not leave that bitch alone, and your post Is just further proof of what an ignoramus you are!!



Talk about a lack of reading comprehension skills!!! The OP is set up as a hypothetical question; the answer to which isn't about whether or not those answers have been tried, when, where and/or whether or not they were successful.



Get an education, learn how to read and respond with a cogent reply before coming back at me with your juvenile bantering you sniveling little naive pain in DTT's ass !


HOW DARE YOU CALL WT THE B WORD, HAVE YOU NO SHAME? Your the one with comprehension problems.



1st, the title of the thread is "If You Were President, How Would You Fix This Country?" Although it's asking for your opinion, other members can GIVE their opinions on whether if your opinions will actually work or not based on historical and economic fact. By your logic, if you would of had posted your solution as Red Coloring Crayons, then I shouldn't challenge you because it's a "hypothetical question" LOL



Not only that, you kind of debut your whole argument when your wrote before quote "Fayt, you're an ignoramus who hasn't the faintest clue about economics on any level."



So what you're also saying is that I have no clue what I'm talking about economically but I should not post anything questioning yours. Your above quote is false any way, BECAUSE







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Clearly you are far more knowledgable than I on this subject, so I yield to thee.



GWV






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And lets be honest about what's going on in the states all over this country, it's reverse Robin Hood they're stealing from working people to give to the rich and nothing more.


You get no argument from me there...



And Fayt, if I may, I would like to compliment you on your knowledge of economics and ability to effectively communicate it in a meaningful and cogent manner (which exceeds those engaging you in this topic, IMO).









I certainly have nothing more to add to this thread, and can only observe and learn from your discussions with others.



And no IT, I'm not kissing ass...I'm giving credit where credit is due!







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[quote name='GWV' timestamp='1309912701' post='340699']That was a very good and well written retort fayt, you even get a + for it.







When I have more time I will re-read it and see if there is anything I particularly disagree with, which upon first reading I did not see anything.







Thank you for your participation in this discussion too, btw.







GWV






You're the first conservative to write something like this to me, that must of took a lot of cojones. I don't care what the others say, you're reasonable.








Gave you a + for that response too...







It has nothing to do with cojones but rather integrity.







I have no issue with admitting when am I wrong or someone else presents a better argument than me...etc.







That which you did.















GWV



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And there's tons of more of your contradictory statements and your prashes of Fayt. You give up ?
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If it gets overheated, PN, you have my blessing to close it. I don't like to see any more insults. They have no place anywhere. Hell is the best place for it (of course the devil would know just what to do). And I have seen way too many, even in other threads.
I'm making it your call William. See my PM.
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