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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:09 AM   #31
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Why do you feel you must personally insult another person? I have stated opinions. They are not always popular. Does that make me less of a person than you? Do you think you are some noble looking down at a peasant? What is the matter with you? Are you able to engage in conversation discussing ones opinions and merits and disagreements thereof?
You stated nonsense. However, I will say that I am sorry for insulting you like that. It was rude. I was raised to be strict with manners and the maintaining of my honour, so I am now very upset with myself for saying that.

First, what you suggest would not only destroy the order of the US, but would destroy what makes it so beautifully unique and effective compared to other countries today and throughout history.

Second, what you are suggesting will never happen, so there's point in even talking about it. This is one of the reasons I stopped being a political crusader, as a lot of ideologies talk about problems in society, without having the slightest clue as how to solve them. Or, they give solutions, but have no idea how to implement them. Ergo, these points of view should simply be dismissed.

This stuff should be pretty obvious. I figured it out a long time ago.

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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:10 AM   #32
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Stop stalling.

Give me examples of rights being consistently being violated without repercussion by the US Gov.
the war on drugs (the DEA)

the patriot act

the TSA

the NSA

income tax

the state routinely oversteps the authority it has been granted by the constitution.

i have no interest in getting into a constitutional thread drift especially w/ someone who is under the impression that my rights have been granted to me by the state and that the constitution is evidence of that.



and now you add "without repercussion by the US Gov."

you keep dancing for what reasons.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:16 AM   #33
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You stated nonsense. However, I will say that I am sorry for insulting you like that. It was rude. I was raised to be strict with manners and the maintaining of my honour, so I am now very upset with myself for saying that.

First, what you suggest would not only destroy the order of the US, but would destroy what makes it so beautifully unique and effective compared to other countries today and throughout history.

Second, what you are suggesting will never happen, so there's point in even talking about it. This is one of the reasons I stopped being a political crusader, as a lot of ideologies talk about problems in society, without having the slightest clue as how to solve them. Or, they give solutions, but have no idea how to implement them. Ergo, these points of view should simply be dismissed.

This stuff should be pretty obvious. I figured it out a long time ago.
Let me allow you a history lesson sir. It begins November 7th, 1917. All my points were accomplished. The evils of capitalism is the only thing that destroyed it. Capitalism has resulted in the destruction of people, and of lives. Capitalism is what is the driving force behind these archaic social norms that so many people embrace. Breast feeding in public. That is the great issue here. The only reason it is the great issue is because due to capitalism people have embraced this self centered individualistic view that the believe they should apply to others. So, a women breast feeding in public does not meet this view, never mind she is doing the most efficient thing to feed her offspring. Capitalism has dictated that should only be done with a bottle. Tell me who is the real villain here?
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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:18 AM   #34
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the war on drugs (the DEA)

the patriot act

the TSA

the NSA

income tax

the state routinely oversteps the authority it has been granted by the constitution.

i have no interest in getting into a constitutional thread drift especially w/ someone who is under the impression that my rights have been granted to me by the state and that the constitution is evidence of that.



and now you add "without repercussion by the US Gov."

you keep dancing for what reasons.
Legal.

Legal.

Still under investigation, most believed to be sketchy but still mostly legal.

Legal.

Prove it.

That is necessary if we're talking about rights. The law is what determines rights, which is determined by the people through their representative government. Since the Constitution is the supreme law, we have to talk about it in order to have a discussion about rights.

How many times am I going to have to state the obvious?
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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:22 AM   #35
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Legal.

Legal.

Still under investigation, most believed to be sketchy but still mostly legal.

Legal.

Prove it.

That is necessary if we're talking about rights. The law is what determines rights, which is determined by the people through their representative government. Since the Constitution is the supreme law, we have to talk about it in order to have a discussion about rights.

How many times am I going to have to state the obvious?
The law is the State. See, we are not that far apart as you think
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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:26 AM   #36
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Let me allow you a history lesson sir. It begins November 7th, 1917. All my points were accomplished. The evils of capitalism is the only thing that destroyed it. Capitalism has resulted in the destruction of people, and of lives. Capitalism is what is the driving force behind these archaic social norms that so many people embrace. Breast feeding in public. That is the great issue here. The only reason it is the great issue is because due to capitalism people have embraced this self centered individualistic view that the believe they should apply to others. So, a women breast feeding in public does not meet this view, never mind she is doing the most efficient thing to feed her offspring. Capitalism has dictated that should only be done with a bottle. Tell me who is the real villain here?
Jimmyb I found you a real commie!

Haha a woman breastfeeding in public is not a huge issue. War, poverty, corruption, discrimination and climate change are huge issues.

You wanna go against the last 30 years of consensus by expert economists fine, then write a revolutionary paper if you've got everything figured out. Send it to a university and then we'll get to read about you in the news.
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The law is the State. See, we are not that far apart as you think
No the law is the law.

No one is above the law, not even the state.

That idea is one of the most important founding principles of the democratic world, and today remains a staple of our moral dominance over most of the world and societies throughout history.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:29 AM   #38
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Jimmyb I found you a real commie!

Haha a woman breastfeeding in public is not a huge issue. War, poverty, corruption, discrimination and climate change are huge issues.

You wanna go against the last 30 years of consensus by expert economists fine, then write a revolutionary paper if you've got everything figured out. Send it to a university and then we'll get to read about you in the news.
Karl Marx already has. Besides Capitalism would not allow anyone to become famous by pointing out the flaws of Capitalism. Oh wait, Bernie Sanders and the Democrat party is doing that already. The war has begun, you just have not realized it yet.
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Old October 6th, 2016, 09:33 AM   #39
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No the law is the law.

No one is above the law, not even the state.

That idea is one of the most important founding principles of the democratic world, and today remains a staple of our moral dominance over most of the world and societies throughout history.
Yes, of course the state is not above the law. The state is the law. Do you really believe Hillary Clinton is innocent of breaking the law? Of course she is not. She is a part of the state! Therefore the laws were not applied to her in the same manner as it would be the general citizenry. Do you have a vote every time a swat team is sent to raid? No, the state appointed police do that. You talking in riddles and rhymes and ignore reality. That is ok, your are exactly like millions of others. More and more are waking up though. Embracing how the state works is the first step. Right now your still fantasizing how you think it works to satisfy your false sense of morality that is influenced by this fail ideology of individualism and rights.
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Legal.

Legal.

Still under investigation, most believed to be sketchy but still mostly legal.

Legal.

Prove it.

That is necessary if we're talking about rights. The law is what determines rights, which is determined by the people through their representative government. Since the Constitution is the supreme law, we have to talk about it in order to have a discussion about rights.

How many times am I going to have to state the obvious?
because i do not recognize the authority of the state. the only reason that it appears that i do is because they will send men w/ guns to my house to murder me or kidnap me and toss me into a cage if i do not.

here we have a story about a bully w/ a badge representing a false authority pushing a mother around because in his eyes her feeding her child in public is some kind of crime against humanity. in a thread on the very subject of the state overstepping its perceived authority, you a bully w/ a badge from another nation has the audacity to inquire how the state violates the rights of the people. it happens all of the time.

you want some sort of evidence. like what? from a court? the court is the state from the ruling bodies? they are the state.
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