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Old December 2nd, 2016, 09:57 AM   #11
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sigh..Where to even begin on the lack of efficiency you are citing. Let me put it this way. Did you see the new steam ship that got built recently? Yeah me neither..
I take it that you travel over the oceans using an internal combustion engine. Bring back clipper ships using sail power.
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I take it that you travel over the oceans using an internal combustion engine. Bring back clipper ships using sail power.
No, I spent a lot of time on a steam ship, there is still some steam ships. But no one is actually building them. The LNG carriers were still being built as steam ships, but even they went slow speed diesel, ok that is a misnomer. They went slow speed LNG. Anyway the new trend is getting away from conventional slow speed diesels and going to LNG burning slow speed engines. The US fleet probably has the oldest ships still going. Due to the lack of common sense in the subsidies through the Jones Act. The Jones Act is a good thing. The way it is being used and or allowed to be used in regards to subsidies and shipbuilding is not.
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Old December 2nd, 2016, 10:08 AM   #13
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No, I spent a lot of time on a steam ship, there is still some steam ships. But no one is actually building them. The LNG carriers were still being built as steam ships, but even they went slow speed diesel, ok that is a misnomer. They went slow speed LNG. Anyway the new trend is getting away from conventional slow speed diesels and going to LNG burning slow speed engines. The US fleet probably has the oldest ships still going. Due to the lack of common sense in the subsidies through the Jones Act. The Jones Act is a good thing. The way it is being used and or allowed to be used in regards to subsidies and shipbuilding is not.
A nuke powered ship uses steam to make the screws turn. I don't get where you are coming from.
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Fair enough.

What do you call the Carrier deal?


Well, we know you seem happy to have had those jobs go off to Mexico.




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A nuke powered ship uses steam to make the screws turn. I don't get where you are coming from.
I am coming from commercial shipping. Not Naval ships. The largest ships in the world are commercial not naval. The vast vast vast majority of ships on the oceans are Merchant vessels, not naval.
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I have nothing against electric cars and even considered putting a deposit down on a tesla 3 but I think I would like to see how they preform in real life. My issue is the state interference in business. Both the Germans attempting to restrict German car manufacturer and the US and its "investment" in tesla.

Both IMO are dramatic over reaches of government authority.
It was the state that told horse owners they were restricted on roads meant for automobiles.

Horses are also not allowed on interstate highways.

Any problem with those regulations interfering with businesses that use horses?
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Well, we know you seem happy to have had those jobs go off to Mexico.



You don't know that. But everyone paying attention knows that you "champions of the free market" endorse government intervention into the market.

That Donald is a wizard.

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I am coming from commercial shipping. Not Naval ships. The largest ships in the world are commercial not naval. The vast vast vast majority of ships on the oceans are Merchant vessels, not naval.
We all have the duty that we must do. We drank and showered using pure distilled water when not on water hours. When on water hours we had to take salt water showers using a special hard lye soap. Swim call was cool.
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I look forward to the day when a Muslim extremist on his way to a sharia law trial, drives an electric car on the autobahn charged with electricity paid for by German taxpayers while the ban on coal and natural gas plants drives the cost of German electricity to 10 times the rate in the USA.

Modern German future...10 years away.
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Fair enough.

What do you call the Carrier deal?
Another thread.

But sure I will play.

Are you trying to say that the stat stealing less money from a business the same as them giving money to another? Or the state saying that you are no longer allowed to make the product that you have been for the last 50 years or so but If you want to stay in business you can make the one that we like the same as them telling a different business that they can keep their profits?

Is that what you are trying to say?
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