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Old May 17th, 2017, 08:04 PM   #11
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Most kids these days don't have a dad. Liberals have seen to that. They want the government to be daddy.
My Dad was overly strict and I left home when I turned 18 and joined the Navy to ride the WAVES and see the world.
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My Dad was overly strict and I left home when I turned 18 and joined the Navy to ride the WAVES and see the world.
I see what you did there.
Ride the WAVES???
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Most kids these days don't have a dad. Liberals have seen to that. They want the government to be daddy.
Please tell me exactly how "liberals did that."
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Teachers these days are ludicrously constrained in the means available to them to discipline unruly students. Many parents these days do not react the way the above poster's and my parents would have reacted to such a thing.

So what options are there other than to call the cops if a kid is being a total shithead. None. Good for the teacher, good for the cop and good for the court.
What are you talking about. Progressive and PC Teachers supported and seek such constraint via DOE/School boards and Unions.

This is the result of wanted policy.

As for the subject, you get what you paid for and I do not feel sorry for any Teacher/child within the school system and the Judge was just the result of today's society.
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What are you talking about. Progressive and PC Teachers supported and seek such constraint via DOE/School boards and Unions.

This is the result of wanted policy.

As for the subject, you get what you paid for and I do not feel sorry for any Teacher/child within the school system and the Judge was just the result of today's society.
You ever wonder why there are apparently no conservatives (at least to hear you talk) involved in the public education system, not as teachers, not as administrators, not a school board members, etc. etc.?

Personally I think it's because they don't give the slightest shit about public education,
What do you think?

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Mine to. If I got a few swats with a paddle at school for being a little asshole I kept my mouth shut about it and just hoped the principal didn't call my dad. because THEN I'd really catch it.
i was alot more afraid of my dad than any principal!
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Please tell me exactly how "liberals did that."
Undermining Christian family values and subsidizing unwed mothers.

You pay people to do something, like breed without preparing for the responsibility, you get more of it.
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Undermining Christian family values and subsidizing unwed mothers.

You pay people to do something, like breed without preparing for the responsibility, you get more of it.
What utter bullshit.

First, not everybody is Christian, so your "Christian values" mean shit to them.

Secondly, my father was an honorably discharged soldier in college and my mother was a 'showgirl' in Las Vegas. In what book would Dr. Spock have considered them "prepared for the responsibility" of child raising? And they did a fairly good job of it.

The biggest problem in people like you who think that archaic rules and traditions will live in a society that has furthered individuals' rights and expectations - yet you want to live within historical boundaries. And because you refuse to grow and educate yourself to the world you live in, we are unable to live in peace and families (which no longer necessarily consist of the same people they used to) cannot thrive.
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I see what you did there.
Ride the WAVES???
I joined the Navy to ride the WAVES is an old Navy joke. I did not find WAVES attractive and never dated them. However, I was doing a project in the Navy Annex and walked by the Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy office and walked in to see it. My pretense for walking in was I was lost and needed directions. The WAVES in his office were beautiful beyond description. The Navy does not have WAVES nor does the Marine Corps have BAMS these days.
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You ever wonder why there are apparently no conservatives (at least to here you talk) involved in the public education system, not as teachers, not as administrators, not a school board members, etc. etc.?

Personally I think it's because they don't give the slightest shit about public education,
What do you think?
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Hayek argues that exceptionally intelligent people who favor the market tend to find opportunities for professional and financial success outside the Academy (i.e., in the business or professional world). Those who are highly intelligent but ill-disposed toward the market are more likely to choose an academic career. For this reason, the universities come to be filled with those intellectuals who were favorably disposed toward socialism from the beginning.

This also leads to the phenomenon that academics don't know much about how markets work, since they have so little experience with them, living as they do in their subsidized ivory towers and protected by academic tenure. As Joseph Schumpeter explained in Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy, it is "the absence of direct responsibility for practical affairs" that distinguishes the academic intellectual from others "who wield the power of the spoken and the written word." This absence of direct responsibility leads to a corresponding absence of first-hand knowledge of practical affairs. The critical attitude of the intellectual arises, says Schumpeter, "no less from the intellectual's situation as an onlooker in most cases also as an outsider than from the fact that his main chance of asserting himself lies in his actual or potential nuisance value."3

Hayek's account is incomplete, however, because it doesn't explain why academics have become more and more interventionist throughout the twentieth century. As mentioned above, during the first half of the twentieth century university faculty members tended to hold political views similar to those held by the general population. What caused the change?

To answer, we must realize first that academics receive many direct benefits from the welfare state, and that these benefits have increased over time.

Excluding student financial aid, public universities receive about 50 percent of their funding from federal and state governments, dwarfing the 18 percent they receive from tuition and fees. Even "private" universities like Stanford or Harvard receive around 20 percent of their budgets from federal grants and contracts.4 If you include student financial aid, that figure rises to almost 50 percent. According to the US Department of Education, about a third of all students at public, 4-year colleges and universities, and half the students at private colleges and universities, receive financial aid from the federal government.

In this sense, the most dramatic example of "corporate welfare" in the US is the GI Bill, which subsidized the academic sector, bloating it far beyond the level the market would have provided. The GI Bill, signed by President Roosevelt in 1944 to send returning soldiers to colleges and universities, cost taxpayers $14.5 billion between 1944 and 1956.5 Federal spending on the latest version, the Montgomery GI Bill, is projected at $3.2 billion in 2006 alone.

To see why this government aid is so important to the higher education establishment, we need only stop to consider for a moment what academics would do in a purely free society. The fact is that most academics simply aren't that important. In a free society, there would be far fewer of them than there are today. Their public visibility would no doubt be quite low. Most would be poorly paid. Though some would be engaged in scholarly research, the vast majority would be teachers. Their job would be to pass the collective wisdom of the ages along to the next generation.

In all likelihood, there would also be far fewer students. Some students would attend traditional colleges and universities, but many more students would attend technical and vocational schools, where their instructors would be men and women with practical knowledge.


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