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Old July 31st, 2014, 05:42 PM   #11
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Nice. I will the rest. I remember a lobster or something, is that right? It's been a long time.
I say start from the beginning.

He published the first gunslinger on his own dime before he was "king'. If you can get your hands on one of them. Good for you they have to be floating around someplace.

Then I'm not sure when he published it again but he said it was a story that had been ringing in his mind

Read it and than read about how it ties everything together.

I always thaught as king as "bubble gum" fiction untill I finished it all.



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Code name: Johnny Walker - Wm. Morrow, c 2014. About an Iraqi 'terp (interpreter) during US combat ops there. V. interesting reading, it's a perspective you don't get much in US mass media. The author - still incognito - is Sunni Iraqi, but he needed to work. He worked with MPs in Iraq, then SEALs. Bloody @ times, lots of swearing. But still, another POV - especially on how the troops think/act about 'terps.

Summary: This extraordinary story of the Iraqi translator "Johnny Walker," who risked his life working with the Navy SEALs to save countless American lives, reveals how his job made him and his family targets, forcing them to flee to California where he continues to work with the military, training new SEALs.

Summary: This is the story of how an ordinary Iraqi became a hero to America's elite warriors. Night after night, while his homeland was being destroyed around him, he guided the U.S. Navy SEALs through Iraq's most dangerous regions. Operating under the code name "Johnny Walker," he risked his life on more than a thousand missions and became a legend in the U.S. special-ops community. But in the eyes of Iraq's terrorists and insurgents, he and his family were marked for death because he worked with the Americans. Over the course of eight years, Johnny Walker unmasked countless terrorists and helped foil an untold number of plots against Americans and their allies. He went on hundreds of missions, saved dozens of American lives and risked his own life daily. He and his family lived in constant jeopardy, surviving multiple assassination attempts. Today they live in the United States, where he remains in the fight by helping train the next generation of American special-operations warriors.--From publisher description.

Description: xvii, 285 pages, 8 unnumbered pages of plates : illustrations, map
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My guilty pleasure in reading, which I still re-read periodically, are the Spenser books by Robert B. Parker. Even when the plots are weak, which became slightly more prevalent in his later works, I still greatly enjoyed how the words seem to flow off the page. And his sense of humor and mine just mesh.

I am now re-reading some Hemingway. I loved his works when I was in high school, but I must have changed. I don't remember them but am not at all as enthralled as I was back then.
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Beginnings are such delicate things

I enjoy Dune, Frank Herbert. Somehow, he managed to boil down a lot of information - government, ethics, morality, religion, science, personality, mind/body, nerve/muscle deep training, adepts, etc. into a v. pithy novel. It sprawls, it took me two tries, but once I engaged, it was an excellent ride. The sequels were noteworthy too. I like the SyFy adaptations I've seen - the best so far.

The son - well, bless him, he's trying. I'd rather he let go of the project, because his work suffers by comparison.

There's also a documentary floating around out there, about the Dune movie that Jodorovsky wanted to make. He couldn't pull together funding & keep the project moving. There were a lot of those - Zardoz was also inspired by the frustrations of trying to make a version of Dune.

Herbert had a way with language - v. evocative. He knew just how much to impart, how much to conceal.
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I enjoy Dune, Frank Herbert. Somehow, he managed to boil down a lot of information - government, ethics, morality, religion, science, personality, mind/body, nerve/muscle deep training, adepts, etc. into a v. pithy novel. It sprawls, it took me two tries, but once I engaged, it was an excellent ride. The sequels were noteworthy too. I like the SyFy adaptations I've seen - the best so far.

The son - well, bless him, he's trying. I'd rather he let go of the project, because his work suffers by comparison.

There's also a documentary floating around out there, about the Dune movie that Jodorovsky wanted to make. He couldn't pull together funding & keep the project moving. There were a lot of those - Zardoz was also inspired by the frustrations of trying to make a version of Dune.

Herbert had a way with language - v. evocative. He knew just how much to impart, how much to conceal.
Tho the new ones ahh not so much
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the 1984 dune movie was a disaster. too much thrown in.
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the 1984 dune movie was a disaster. too much thrown in.
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Yah, I saw that in a theater. The studio had so little faith in the material that they were handing out vocabulary sheets - that was a bad sign right there. Of course, I'd read the book, so I wasn't concerned. It was interesting to see the movie's take on the characters, architecture, Imperial technology, etc.

There were bits I liked, but there's just too much material there, & apparently they couldn't discipline themselves enough to bring the sprawling narrative under control. Some of the set pieces were interesting, but overall, I think the movie failed.
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Yah, I saw that in a theater. The studio had so little faith in the material that they were handing out vocabulary sheets - that was a bad sign right there. Of course, I'd read the book, so I wasn't concerned. It was interesting to see the movie's take on the characters, architecture, Imperial technology, etc.

There were bits I liked, but there's just too much material there, & apparently they couldn't discipline themselves enough to bring the sprawling narrative under control. Some of the set pieces were interesting, but overall, I think the movie failed.
A great point there. All of the movie versions of Sci-Fi books/stories I have like have been disasters. Which makes, to my mind, the Lord of the Rings movies and the first two Hobbit movies a wonderful exception. The movies were amazingly true to the books and conveyed the concepts well. There are some points to bicker over, but compared to all my other experiences, these were great.
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A great point there. All of the movie versions of Sci-Fi books/stories I have like have been disasters. Which makes, to my mind, the Lord of the Rings movies and the first two Hobbit movies a wonderful exception. The movies were amazingly true to the books and conveyed the concepts well. There are some points to bicker over, but compared to all my other experiences, these were great.
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Yah, so far the best adaptation I've seen was the original 20,000 Leagues under the Sea movie by Disney. This was a while back, before they started tarting up the story with women in distress - presumably to appeal to the gentler sex. Whatever the motivation, I think it detracts from the story @ hand. The sea chanties & other goings-on were bad enough. Recent remakes are inevitably worse.

LOTR - I read those & The Hobbit ages ago, I grant you. The LOTR adaptations are v. visual - but the bulk of the books was the traveling & singing & oral culture & fellowship - not surprising, given Tolkien's background & profession. But that gets swept away by the strongpoint of movies - action, lots of action, gunpowder, explosions, flights of arrows, swordplay, fights, sieges, horse chases, orcs, goblins, wizards, elves, trolls, dwarves, Ents, giant eagles, siege machinery - I don't think Tolkien himself would have approved of the final result. Except, perhaps, insofar as it tempted people to read the books.

The Hobbit - I've seen the first installment of the trilogy - they've had to pad the material out, the actual book was more of a novella - v. brief, much too flimsy a structure to pile all that narrative upon. Tolkien left scads of material, right enough. We'll have to see how well the production crew did. The pacing of the first one seems v. deliberate - more in line with the actual stories - but it seems like a lot of the action simply echoes what went before.

Well, we'll see. I do like Freeman in the role.
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