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Old January 4th, 2014, 04:31 PM   #11
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I've been in bookstores where more than half the shelfspace for science fiction was taken up by titles in the star wars and star trek universes.

a lot of the rest by old classics and almost no room for new titles in original formats.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #12
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I've been in bookstores where more than half the shelfspace for science fiction was taken up by titles in the star wars and star trek universes.

a lot of the rest by old classics and almost no room for new titles in original formats.
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Yah, the bookstores - & all print media, really, are in serious trouble. The 'papers keep wanting to somehow cash in on Internet, & publish more pix - as if that were the problem. They can't all be People magazine, or the more lurid stuff that caters to blood & crime.

As long as Hollywood keeps pumping out comics stories & heavy SFX budgets, we're not going to see much in the way of serious SF - unless it somehow has an audience built in. The 'papers are folding - I think - mostly because they gave up on middlebrow & higher material.

Of course, the question is what will local TV news do when the local 'papers fold - they're caught in the money trap too - they all now regularly do "send us your photos, maybe you'll see them on TV!" segments, man in the street, & if it bleeds, it leads.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 05:28 PM   #13
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I seriously like the comic book sourced movies. great stories, great characters. people and things I loved as a kid come to life.

concerned a bit though. these stories were all written years ago. If anybody anywhere is having an original thought, where and how do they sell it?
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Old January 4th, 2014, 06:29 PM   #14
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Clive barkers immajica is still one of the best books I have ever read.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 06:56 PM   #15
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there hasn't been much success with bringing asimov stories to the big screen.

I, robot(the movie) was more influenced by asimov than from him. ok adventure story but not what asimov intended.

I have long that Caves of Steel would make a great movie just as written.
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I think time will tell issac to be more of a prophet vs fiction writer.
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Old January 4th, 2014, 07:20 PM   #17
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I think time will tell issac to be more of a prophet vs fiction writer.
I read a column by asimov a long time ago where he expressed how badly science fiction had done in the area of prediction.

no classic sci fi from the 30's thru the 50's predicted mini-computers, internet, or now the end of the population explosion we have today.

so much of the old classic science fiction depends of course on some mechanism of faster than light travel, that's still not likely.
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there hasn't been much success with bringing asimov stories to the big screen.

I, robot(the movie) was more influenced by asimov than from him. ok adventure story but not what asimov intended.

I have long that Caves of Steel would make a great movie just as written.
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Yah, it's surprising that P. K. Dick's SF stories get a lot more movie play than Asimov's. Dick was an interesting writer, he worked with v. unpromising material & turned it into a slew of stories that have become movies:

Blade Runner, Total Recall, A Scanner Darkly, Adjustment Bureau, Paycheck, Next, Screamers, Minority Report. See Philip K. Dick - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more info.
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Old January 5th, 2014, 11:36 AM   #19
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should be standard reading for every american boy:


Asimov
Heinlien
and the original sherlock holmes stories of Arthur Conan Doyle
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there hasn't been much success with bringing asimov stories to the big screen.

I, robot(the movie) was more influenced by asimov than from him. ok adventure story but not what asimov intended.

I have long that Caves of Steel would make a great movie just as written.
Nah! If anything needs a movie theatre, it's The Riverworld.
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