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Old January 2nd, 2014, 12:10 PM   #1
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national science fiction day

happy national science fiction day, appropriately enuf on the date of Azimov's birth.
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did the success of star trek and star wars save science fiction or kill it?
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I think the success of the new dr. Who shows that main stream science fiction can still be fun yet intellectual. With Disney now owning the star wars franchise I see only more of the same shitty films as the last 3 or even more horrible. I feel the reinvention of star trek looks good and is enjoyable but is more proof that they no longer want to pay writers for new ideas.
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I like star wars and star trek, but for years it's been as if those were the only ideas available.

the short lived Firefly series gives us just a small taste of what science fiction could have been.
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did the success of star trek and star wars save science fiction or kill it?
Star Trek started out reworking SF short stories by name authors. By the end of the TV run, they were recycling material that I thought was below par. The ST movies are uneven, some of them are v. interesting, others not so much. The succeeding ST TV stories are up & down - but I did like Commander Sisko of Deep Space 9.

Star Wars - the original 3 were a commercial success. The spinoffs & next 3 - I kinda like the cartoon version. The last 3 - the prequel - I thought were weak stories - but v. pretty SFX.

As SF, I prefer the SciFi Dune series, or the reboot of Battlestar Galactica - or the Babylon 5 series. I also liked Firefly & the movie.

But it's getting harder & harder to distinguish SF from comics-based stories - The Avengers, the Fantastic Four, Spiderman, The Hulk, Superman, Captain America, Thor. I think there's a core audience for SF that isn't comics-based - the additional eyes are simply drawn to the adventure aspect & pictures. The SFX has gotten better & better - see Avatar, the evolution of Dr. Who.

Dr. Who started out as children's programming - the effects have gotten much better, & I think the plotting is tighter. But a lot of the quirkiness of Tom Baker & the longer form has gone away. I like the look of the recent series, but I wonder how much is lost in shorter forms & state-of-the-art SFX.
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