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Old August 1st, 2015, 06:30 PM   #1
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"The Marching Morons" is optimistic

Amazon.com: The Marching Morons (The Galaxy Project Book 16) eBook: C. M. Kornbluth: Kindle Store

pensacola_niceman referenced "The Marching Morons" here:

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So I read it. It was written in 1951 when humanity hadn't yet gone mad. It predicts an idiocracy that has already largely arrived. But in the story, a group of non-morons get together to preserve human intelligence, to prevent it from dying out. This is the optimistic part which seems very difficult to do now. Humanity is already too stupid to recognize the impending problem of idiocracy and to do much about it. Just look at the kind of things people here worry about (gay marriage, etc.) while human intelligence and morality are in free fall. And members of this forum are completely unable to stay on topic or even understand the point of non-trivial posts, a clear indication that idiocracy is already at hand.

I am trying to do something about the problem. Biblic Judaism is a moral religion for non-morons. There are plenty of religions out there for morons (which shall remain nameless), but Biblic Judaism is specifically designed for intelligent people concerned about morality. Unfortunately such people are virtually extinct, but I will at least work on saving the handful that still exist. I believe that this is the only hope of avoiding complete idiocracy.
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Amazon.com: The Marching Morons (The Galaxy Project Book 16) eBook: C. M. Kornbluth: Kindle Store

pensacola_niceman referenced "The Marching Morons" here:

Man accidentally shoots himself in testicles

So I read it. It was written in 1951 when humanity hadn't yet gone mad. It predicts an idiocracy that has already largely arrived. But in the story, a group of non-morons get together to preserve human intelligence, to prevent it from dying out. This is the optimistic part which seems very difficult to do now. Humanity is already too stupid to recognize the impending problem of idiocracy and to do much about it. Just look at the kind of things people here worry about (gay marriage, etc.) while human intelligence and morality are in free fall. And members of this forum are completely unable to stay on topic or even understand the point of non-trivial posts, a clear indication that idiocracy is already at hand.

I am trying to do something about the problem. Biblic Judaism is a moral religion for non-morons. There are plenty of religions out there for morons (which shall remain nameless), but Biblic Judaism is specifically designed for intelligent people concerned about morality. Unfortunately such people are virtually extinct, but I will at least work on saving the handful that still exist. I believe that this is the only hope of avoiding complete idiocracy.
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Amazon.com: The Marching Morons (The Galaxy Project Book 16) eBook: C. M. Kornbluth: Kindle Store

pensacola_niceman referenced "The Marching Morons" here:

Man accidentally shoots himself in testicles

So I read it. It was written in 1951 when humanity hadn't yet gone mad. It predicts an idiocracy that has already largely arrived. But in the story, a group of non-morons get together to preserve human intelligence, to prevent it from dying out. This is the optimistic part which seems very difficult to do now. Humanity is already too stupid to recognize the impending problem of idiocracy and to do much about it. Just look at the kind of things people here worry about (gay marriage, etc.) while human intelligence and morality are in free fall. And members of this forum are completely unable to stay on topic or even understand the point of non-trivial posts, a clear indication that idiocracy is already at hand.

I am trying to do something about the problem. Biblic Judaism is a moral religion for non-morons. There are plenty of religions out there for morons (which shall remain nameless), but Biblic Judaism is specifically designed for intelligent people concerned about morality. Unfortunately such people are virtually extinct, but I will at least work on saving the handful that still exist. I believe that this is the only hope of avoiding complete idiocracy.
Idiocracy is as old as human civilization. Avoiding it is impossible. Being in the world but not of it is about the best we can do, when we can do it.

Biblic Judaism helps you to do the best you can do. Other doctrines work well for others. Good morality is a natural expression of loving one's neighbor as one loves himself or herself.
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Idiocracy is as old as human civilization. Avoiding it is impossible. Being in the world but not of it is about the best we can do, when we can do it.

Biblic Judaism helps you to do the best you can do. Other doctrines work well for others. Good morality is a natural expression of loving one's neighbor as one loves himself or herself.
he can't do that when he sees himself as superior. he looks down his nose at everyone and claims to be a moral holy person
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he can't do that when he sees himself as superior. he looks down his nose at everyone and claims to be a moral holy person
The seductive allure of being one of the chosen, one of the enlightened, is as timeless as idiocracy.
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Idiocracy is as old as human civilization. Avoiding it is impossible. Being in the world but not of it is about the best we can do, when we can do it.
The America that I grew up in was not an Idiocracy. Of course there were idiots, but they did not dominate society as they do now. Cultures vary greatly.

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Of course other religions can work, but none today promote both intelligence and morality, as the Puritans did. For example, Orthodox Judaism does promote morality (in spite of being racist), but it also promotes stupidity. If I could have found an existing religion that promotes intelligence and morality, I wouldn't have bothered with Biblic Judaism.

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The seductive allure of being one of the chosen, one of the enlightened, is as timeless as idiocracy.
Allure? Having brains on a planet of morons is a curse, quite depressing.
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The America that I grew up in was not an Idiocracy. Of course there were idiots, but they did not dominate society as they do now. Cultures vary greatly.


Of course other religions can work, but none today promote both intelligence and morality, as the Puritans did. For example, Orthodox Judaism does promote morality (in spite of being racist), but it also promotes stupidity. If I could have found an existing religion that promotes intelligence and morality, I wouldn't have bothered with Biblic Judaism.


Allure? Having brains on a planet of morons is a curse, quite depressing.
I read the Marching Morons a long time ago. Didn't the elite class try to live in Antarctica for awhile before the Morons totally fucked things up?
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I read the Marching Morons a long time ago. Didn't the elite class try to live in Antarctica for awhile before the Morons totally fucked things up?
Yes. The point being?
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Yes. The point being?
Perhaps if it gets too hot at your compound in Texas?
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Perhaps if it gets too hot at your compound in Texas?
Antarctica didn't work in "The Marching Moron" and it won't work for us. We want to grow food. But don't worry, we have no plans to settle in Kansas, so you are safe.
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