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Old April 11th, 2017, 01:27 PM   #21
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I don't agree. This is yet another question where a single answer will not cover all possibilities....
It doesn't matter if an infant can run like the wind, if it doesn't know anything about existence it's not going to live. In other words, yes, the single answer of "knowledge" does cover all instances of life and is an absolute: knowledge is supreme and above all other things in importance to a human.

If someone wanted to say that love is more important, well then, you still have to know what to love and know what not to love. Knowledge precedes all things.
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It doesn't matter if an infant can run like the wind, if it doesn't know anything about existence it's not going to live. In other words, yes, the single answer of "knowledge" does cover all instances of life and is an absolute: knowledge is supreme and above all other things in importance to a human.

If someone wanted to say that love is more important, well then, you still have to know what to love and know what not to love. Knowledge precedes all things.
So how much use would the knowledge of where to run to be for an infant incapable of running?
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So how much use would the knowledge of where to run to be for an infant incapable of running?
This is not a chicken/egg thing. Knowledge precedes all things, including knowing how to run.
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This is not a chicken/egg thing. Knowledge precedes all things, including knowing how to run.
Running isn't knowledge, it is development. You don't teach an infant to walk.
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Old April 11th, 2017, 01:52 PM   #25
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Water?
No water and you die in three days and no food you die in thirty days. No oxygen and you die in three minutes.

However that is a subjective answer. I know the difference between subjective and objective reasoning but don't quite grasp what the OP is asking.

The closest to an intellectual on this board is Asimov but it has been a long time since he posted.
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This is not a chicken/egg thing. Knowledge precedes all things, including knowing how to run.
Some things are pure instinct.
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People have lived without any direct knowledge of anything.
And what was the quality of that life?
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Old April 11th, 2017, 02:10 PM   #28
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So how much use would the knowledge of where to run to be for an infant incapable of running?

Running isn't knowledge, it is development. You don't teach an infant to walk.
Of course the knowledge of where to move is of no use to an infant that can't move. That does not mean that movement supplants knowledge in supremacy of importance to human existence. Are there instances where strength takes the place of knowledge, or someone who is more knowledgeable is told to shut up? Yes, but that doesn't mean the knowledge denied is now less important.

Whether an infant is mobile or immobile, knowing where it is and where it needs to be is more important. You can't get where you want to be if you don't first know where you're at. Knowledge precedes all.

Walking and running are absolutely learned behaviors. It took an infant's eyes to see other humans doing it before it decided to try. The infant had to first know something about walking before it could do it.

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Some things are pure instinct.
The OP said this is not a chicken/egg thing and that debate concerns the creation of the Universe and has nothing to do with chickens or eggs.
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No water and you die in three days and no food you die in thirty days. No oxygen and you die in three minutes.

However that is a subjective answer. I know the difference between subjective and objective reasoning but don't quite grasp what the OP is asking.

The closest to an intellectual on this board is Asimov but it has been a long time since he posted.
I was asking others what the most important thing is to a living human as an intellectual exercise, and fun.
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