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Old November 11th, 2011, 08:34 AM   #1
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Stephen Colbert’s brutal smackdown of the Christian “all-knowing, all-loving creator who made all things and hates some of them” is required viewing.

Michigan has made national news this week for the passage of an anti-bullying law that includes a passage allowing Christian bullies to continue to raise hell for gay student, just so long as they really, really mean it (or have a permission slip from God).

The portion of the law that reads, “This section does not prohibit a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction” effectively neuters the entire bill to the point of making zero enforcement possible. All in the name of God.



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Do have a link to the text of the actual legislation so we can make a more adult assessment?



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Gotta love Colbert!



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Tristan, the version passed by the MI Senate a week ago was essentially a pro-bullying law, and effectively gave bullies instructions on how to legally abuse other kids - just say your religious beliefs obligate you to bully gays or blacks, or whomever.



In response to the overwhelmingly adverse public reaction (even the family of the dead kid the bill was named after has disowned it), yesterday the MI House passed a version without the pro-bullying language. The two bills haven't yet been reconciled.



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Michigan's state House passed its own version of an anti-bullying Thursday, smoothing over the language in a bill passed by the Senate last week that sparked a widespread wave of criticism.



The Senate's controversial bill included language that some say protect bullies, by prohibiting anti-bullying policies that ban "a statement of a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction." The bill, dubbed "Matt's Safe School Law," is named after a Michigan teen who committed suicide in 2002 after falling victim to anti-gay bullying.



The House's version of the bill doesn't include the controversial religious language and requires all public, charter and intermediate school districts to implement the policy. The bill passed 88-18 and is also a bipartisan result of the House's promise to seek a compromise that Republican Speaker of the House Jase Bolger said will "bring everyone to the middle of the road and provide protection to all students."



"For many years, people have agreed that bullying is wrong and something needed to be done, but they couldn't find the compassion to compromise, temper their demands and focus on the kids," Bolger said in a statement Thursday. "Bullying is wrong. It doesn't matter who you are, who you are bullying or why you are doing it."



Republican Rep. Phil Potvin, the bill's main sponsor, told the Detroit Free Press that Michigan is just one of three states in the country that does not have an anti-bullying law.



Some say the bill still doesn't protect students enough, and should specifically acknowledge common causes of bullying, such as instances based on race, religion or sexual orientation.



"Equality Michigan applauds the Democratic legislators in the House that pushed for the addition of the strong language that would actually protect our students from bullying," Emily Dievendorf of Equality Michigan said in a statement to the Michigan Messenger. "Unfortunately, the pressure to pass just anything squashed their ability to make this bill something effective that we can celebrate. We have the case studies and data to know how to create a strong bill the first time."



Others are also asking for protections against both in-school and out-of-school online bullying as well as mandates to report bullying to the state Department of Education for tracking. Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib told the Detroit News that her younger siblings were bullied at school and her 13-year-old niece, a straight-A student, had been physically beaten and verbally bullied at school.



"We owe our children more," Tlaib told the Detroit News. "They deserve protection that cannot be misconstrued or limited."



The bill now goes to the Senate for approval.


And good job by Colbert - it's exactly that sort of ridicule which forced the change. No surprise though that the Republicans in the Senate supported bullying (all the Senate Rethugs voted for the pro-bully bill, all the Dems against). Here's what the father of the dead kid had to say about the Senate bill named after his son:



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"I am ashamed that this could be Michigan's bill on anti-bullying when in fact it is a 'bullying is OK in Michigan law,'" Kevin Eppling, Matt's father, whose letter was read by Sen. Glenn Anderson during Wednesday's session.
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Old November 11th, 2011, 09:16 AM   #5
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Do have a link to the text of the actual legislation so we can make a more adult assessment?



unicornbooty.com is hardly a recognised news source, It seems to be mostly a homosexual dating site and a repository for christiophobic tweets.


Which has nothing to do with the video which was posted and which this thread is about.



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Tristan, the version passed by the MI Senate a week ago was essentially a pro-bullying law, and effectively gave bullies instructions on how to legally abuse other kids - just say your religious beliefs obligate you to bully gays or blacks, or whomever.



In response to the overwhelmingly adverse public reaction (even the family of the dead kid the bill was named after has disowned it), yesterday the MI House passed a version without the pro-bullying language. The two bills haven't yet been reconciled.


Thanks for the info and update. I didn't know anything about this until the Colbert segment was aired. I dont understand how the two laws can exist at one time, as they are totally at odds with each, it sounds like.
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All bullying is wrong and all bullying laws (if any are needed) should cover everyone equally



The problem is the gay community use this as an excuse to promote homosexuality, to pretend only they are victims and to get special privileges written into law, as happened with Hate Crime legislation.



In other words homosexuals try to use anti bullying laws to become bullies.



Even here on DTT Paper tries to bully people to conform to his views and to exclude all others.
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I dont understand how the two laws can exist at one time, as they are totally at odds with each, it sounds like.


That's how most bills become law - the Senate passes one version, the House another, then they get reconciled. This Michigan bill hasn't even been reconciled, much less signed by the governor (however, it's very clear that Michigan's Regressive governor would prefer the pro-bully version).



I think Colbert misspoke when he said "Michigan passed a law", he should have said "the Michigan senate passed a bill".
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I dont understand how the two laws can exist at one time, as they are totally at odds with each, it sounds like.


That's how most bills become law - the Senate passes one version, the House another, then they get reconciled. This Michigan bill hasn't even been reconciled, much less signed by the governor (however, it's very clear that Michigan's Regressive governor would prefer the pro-bully version).



I think Colbert misspoke when he said "Michigan passed a law", he should have said "the Michigan senate passed a bill".


So Colbert misrepresented the truth to get a few laughs?



What a surprise.



And what a sad comment on American life when so many people get their news from clowns
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I wonder how far the bigots in the Senate would have liked to take the pro-bully religious exemption, especially since Gary's imaginary friend commands that gays should be put to death.
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