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Old December 6th, 2011, 02:27 PM   #21
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For sure bullying should not be tolerated but I sense there is a lot more to this kid than is portrayed in this video, where he seems to enjoy wallowing in his own self-imposed misery.



Who wrote the cue cards?



Who chose the music?



Why did he cut himself?



Most important of all where are the parents?


Why exploit yourself like this if it's all untrue? His tears seem to justify much of how he feels.


I'm not sayng he isn't a victim of bullying but making a tear-jerking YT doesn't seem like a natural response.



He seems to be proud of his extreme reactions, like cutting himself or considering suicide.



He seems to enjoy being a victim in a strange way and is desperately looking for attention and somecody to care.



I just think there's a lot more to his story we don't know.



And where are his parents??

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As for where his parents are, they've put him into counseling, so says numerous internet articles. Do you have children? I can assure you young teenagers are very good at hiding things regardless of how strict their parents are. I've seen many cutters in my high school days and most of the parents weren't even aware. How old are you? Do you not remember hiding things from your parents? Perhaps the video was a reach for help. What does it matter whether or not the kid did this for attention? His message rings out loud and clear.

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I guess we can all make assumptions.



I'm not saying this kid doesn't have problems, only that it is the parent's responsibility to sort out those problems. Posting YT videos is not any kind of answer.



Probably "counselling" isn't much help either.



Yes I am a parent of two grown up children, how about you?

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Grown up children. Perhaps that's why you're so out of touch with what it's like to be a fifteen year old. These are different times.

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My youngest is 23, what things have changed in the last 7-8 years?? Trust me I have been through it all as a parent.



Bullying has been around forever.



Can I assume you are not a parent?

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Are any of your kids gay?
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Old December 6th, 2011, 02:29 PM   #22
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[quote name='gary' timestamp='1323208545' post='371286']

[quote name='Krista' timestamp='1323205988' post='371284']

[quote name='gary' timestamp='1323120833' post='371200']

[quote name='RidinHighSpeeds' timestamp='1323120176' post='371198']

[quote name='gary' timestamp='1323114819' post='371191']

For sure bullying should not be tolerated but I sense there is a lot more to this kid than is portrayed in this video, where he seems to enjoy wallowing in his own self-imposed misery.



Who wrote the cue cards?



Who chose the music?



Why did he cut himself?



Most important of all where are the parents?


Why exploit yourself like this if it's all untrue? His tears seem to justify much of how he feels.


I'm not sayng he isn't a victim of bullying but making a tear-jerking YT doesn't seem like a natural response.



He seems to be proud of his extreme reactions, like cutting himself or considering suicide.



He seems to enjoy being a victim in a strange way and is desperately looking for attention and somecody to care.



I just think there's a lot more to his story we don't know.



And where are his parents??

[/quote]



As for where his parents are, they've put him into counseling, so says numerous internet articles. Do you have children? I can assure you young teenagers are very good at hiding things regardless of how strict their parents are. I've seen many cutters in my high school days and most of the parents weren't even aware. How old are you? Do you not remember hiding things from your parents? Perhaps the video was a reach for help. What does it matter whether or not the kid did this for attention? His message rings out loud and clear.

[/quote]



I guess we can all make assumptions.



I'm not saying this kid doesn't have problems, only that it is the parent's responsibility to sort out those problems. Posting YT videos is not any kind of answer.



Probably "counselling" isn't much help either.



Yes I am a parent of two grown up children, how about you?

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Grown up children. Perhaps that's why you're so out of touch with what it's like to be a fifteen year old. These are different times.

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My youngest is 23, what things have changed in the last 7-8 years?? Trust me I have been through it all as a parent.



Bullying has been around forever.



Can I assume you are not a parent?

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Are any of your kids gay?

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Perhaps I will stick around just a tad longer.... Also, I asked about being friends with gays/lesbians, not just "knowing them".
 
Old December 6th, 2011, 02:43 PM   #23
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[quote name='gary' timestamp='1323208545' post='371286']

[quote name='Krista' timestamp='1323205988' post='371284']

[quote name='gary' timestamp='1323120833' post='371200']

[quote name='RidinHighSpeeds' timestamp='1323120176' post='371198']

[quote name='gary' timestamp='1323114819' post='371191']

For sure bullying should not be tolerated but I sense there is a lot more to this kid than is portrayed in this video, where he seems to enjoy wallowing in his own self-imposed misery.



Who wrote the cue cards?



Who chose the music?



Why did he cut himself?



Most important of all where are the parents?


Why exploit yourself like this if it's all untrue? His tears seem to justify much of how he feels.


I'm not sayng he isn't a victim of bullying but making a tear-jerking YT doesn't seem like a natural response.



He seems to be proud of his extreme reactions, like cutting himself or considering suicide.



He seems to enjoy being a victim in a strange way and is desperately looking for attention and somecody to care.



I just think there's a lot more to his story we don't know.



And where are his parents??

[/quote]



As for where his parents are, they've put him into counseling, so says numerous internet articles. Do you have children? I can assure you young teenagers are very good at hiding things regardless of how strict their parents are. I've seen many cutters in my high school days and most of the parents weren't even aware. How old are you? Do you not remember hiding things from your parents? Perhaps the video was a reach for help. What does it matter whether or not the kid did this for attention? His message rings out loud and clear.

[/quote]



I guess we can all make assumptions.



I'm not saying this kid doesn't have problems, only that it is the parent's responsibility to sort out those problems. Posting YT videos is not any kind of answer.



Probably "counselling" isn't much help either.



Yes I am a parent of two grown up children, how about you?

[/quote]



Grown up children. Perhaps that's why you're so out of touch with what it's like to be a fifteen year old. These are different times.

[/quote]



My youngest is 23, what things have changed in the last 7-8 years?? Trust me I have been through it all as a parent.



Bullying has been around forever.



Can I assume you are not a parent?

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Are any of your kids gay?

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Perhaps I will stick around just a tad longer.... Also, I asked about being friends with gays/lesbians, not just "knowing them".

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My youngest is 23, what things have changed in the last 7-8 years?? Trust me I have been through it all as a parent.



Bullying has been around forever.



Can I assume you are not a parent?


Why am I not surprised by your remarks.



Social media is a huge aspect of what has changed in the past 7-8 years. Now these bullies follow the kids home via twitter, myspace, Facebook, forums etc.



I came home from school one day and my father had commit sucicide. Kids in my school were horrible to me. I did not tell anyone- why- my mom had too much to handle.



These are complex issues that you are too callus to understand.



AND I am a parent.
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I know he's conquered his problem because I've done further research


Care to share your "further research"?


No, actually. I don't care to share anything else with you, because I don't care to argue with you further. Google it yourself and find interviews and articles about him on your own. Have a good evening.

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My youngest is 23, what things have changed in the last 7-8 years?? Trust me I have been through it all as a parent.



Bullying has been around forever.



Can I assume you are not a parent?


Why am I not surprised by your remarks.



Social media is a huge aspect of what has changed in the past 7-8 years. Now these bullies follow the kids home via twitter, myspace, Facebook, forums etc.



I came home from school one day and my father had commit sucicide. Kids in my school were horrible to me. I did not tell anyone- why- my mom had too much to handle.



These are complex issues that you are too callus to understand.



AND I am a parent.


Sorry to hear about your father.
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My youngest is 23, what things have changed in the last 7-8 years?? Trust me I have been through it all as a parent.



Bullying has been around forever.



Can I assume you are not a parent?


Why am I not surprised by your remarks.



Social media is a huge aspect of what has changed in the past 7-8 years. Now these bullies follow the kids home via twitter, myspace, Facebook, forums etc.



I came home from school one day and my father had commit sucicide. Kids in my school were horrible to me. I did not tell anyone- why- my mom had too much to handle.



These are complex issues that you are too callus to understand.



AND I am a parent.


Ah, well said. Someone who understands. I am so very sorry for your loss, by the way.
 
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My youngest is 23, what things have changed in the last 7-8 years?? Trust me I have been through it all as a parent.



Bullying has been around forever.



Can I assume you are not a parent?


Why am I not surprised by your remarks.



Social media is a huge aspect of what has changed in the past 7-8 years. Now these bullies follow the kids home via twitter, myspace, Facebook, forums etc.



I came home from school one day and my father had commit sucicide. Kids in my school were horrible to me. I did not tell anyone- why- my mom had too much to handle.



These are complex issues that you are too callus to understand.



AND I am a parent.


Ah, well said. Someone who understands.

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Thank you for the condolences, it was 24 years ago so it is not as hard to talk about now. I just wanted to share a personal experience as to why some kids don't tell and some parents don't know. And overall it is a complex issue.
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Thank you for the condolences, it was 24 years ago so it is not as hard to talk about now. I just wanted to share a personal experience as to why some kids don't tell and some parents don't know. And overall it is a complex issue.


That was my point, we never know what is happening in a child's mind, or at home, or how they are relating to their parents.



However, I stick by my earlier points that putting a bleeding heart video on YT does not solve anything, and the world of parenting has not changed forever in the last 7 years because of Facebook!
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