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Old February 10th, 2012, 11:33 AM   #21
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Not anymore.



And yet there has been an all out assault against women's reproductive freedoms and health choices since the republicans won Congress and many more state legislative seats and governor's offices in 2010.




N.B. "women's reproductive freedoms and health choices" is libbie leftie code for killing unborn babies


Uh, no it isn't. It's breast cancer screenings, pap smears, birth control and access to them, and yes abortions. Do not try to pretend that our bodies are still open for use as political tools.
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Old February 10th, 2012, 11:38 AM   #22
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If the insurance companies are still providing contraception, and the RCC is paying the insurance companies, how does Obama's compromise change anything?


Nothing really changes - insurance companies will simply charge a bit more to religiously-affiliated businesses to cover those costs.
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The insurance companies are providing all sorts of drugs that can be abused or used to kill, should the church not be paying for it? Should a doctor allow a woman to die if her pregnancy becomes dangerous because she works for a Catholic employer?Maybe if it is that difficult to work this out, the church should stop taking money from the government. Should our government stop giving money to the Catholic church because the church has used it to pay off victims of their child molesting priests?


Thanks for revealing your true underlying motives and bigotry.



The RCC has a doctrinal position on contraception, not other drugs. So forget your hysteria about women being allowed to die!



This is not about the government giving money to the RCC it's about what the RCC is mandated to provide as part of its health insurance under Obamacare. Read the story.



As for child molesting priests, are you as angry at the college football world after the Sandusky revelations?
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If the insurance companies are still providing contraception, and the RCC is paying the insurance companies, how does Obama's compromise change anything?


Nothing really changes - insurance companies will simply charge a bit more to religiously-affiliated businesses to cover those costs.


The whole point is whether the RCC should be forced to provide contraception under its health insurance, regardless of the cost
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Old February 10th, 2012, 11:46 AM   #25
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The insurance companies are providing all sorts of drugs that can be abused or used to kill, should the church not be paying for it? Should a doctor allow a woman to die if her pregnancy becomes dangerous because she works for a Catholic employer?Maybe if it is that difficult to work this out, the church should stop taking money from the government. Should our government stop giving money to the Catholic church because the church has used it to pay off victims of their child molesting priests?


Thanks for revealing your true underlying motives and bigotry.



The RCC has a doctrinal position on contraception, not other drugs. So forget your hysteria about women being allowed to die!



This is not about the government giving money to the RCC it's about what the RCC is mandated to provide as part of its health insurance under Obamacare. Read the story.



As for child molesting priests, are you as angry at the college football world after the Sandusky revelations?
The RCC has doctrine on LIFE.

And everything in it.

You are mistaken when you call me those ignorant names, but if it makes you feel good, go for it. Just don't go crying to the parents when I reciprocate. Got it?

And if the church is going to protest what the insurance companies are doing, it cannot buy insurance from any company and should not be in the employment offered insurance business. Do you not get that one subject you are debating is completely different from the other points you are making in regard to it. Penn State and the Vatican are not the same thing. My government funds Catholic charities and that means that my tax money is being used to pay off victims of child molesters while the molesters are going free. That is immoral and sinful and against the doctrines of the church.
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If the insurance companies are still providing contraception, and the RCC is paying the insurance companies, how does Obama's compromise change anything?


Nothing really changes - insurance companies will simply charge a bit more to religiously-affiliated businesses to cover those costs.


The whole point is whether the RCC should be forced to provide contraception under its health insurance, regardless of the cost

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And now they don't have to. Even though it was for the last ten years in 28 states under Bush's mandate that women have access to contraception.
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I propose a drinking game where we all have to take a shot whenever someone misuses or over uses the word bigot...
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I will leave this here:

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He's not perfect but he is far better than anyone else out there on either side.
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